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关于详细设计的问题，建议大家看一下《代码大全1》,第四章建立子程序的步骤。
程序设计语言PDL是比较理想的详细设计方法。
不过用e文比较好写，用中文感觉就比较难了。
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On 8/3/06, yi feng <yi2369 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 关于详细设计的问题，建议大家看一下《代码大全1》,第四章建立子程序的步骤。
> 程序设计语言PDL是比较理想的详细设计方法。
> 不过用e文比较好写，用中文感觉就比较难了。
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这里不是主要讨论详细设计是怎么回事，主要是讨论怎么写文档更好。详细设计的方法很多，上过软件工程的都学过。只不过理论与实践不好结合。

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On 8/3/06, Xiao Lei Wu <xiaoleiw at cn.ibm.com> wrote:
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> 也许你们不相信，不用说中国小公司，在IBM里面也不是所有项目都完全按照流程来的，甚至可以说大部分项目不是按照流程来的
>  比如我现在做的这个项目，FPFS都还没有就开始FVT，甚至是要final
> regression了,文档都是挤牙膏一样的一点一点往外挤
>  最开始企图用最新的叠代开发模式,结果搞到一半发现不行,最后还是退回到瀑布模式
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> 最后我想奉劝所有刚毕业的年轻人，不要把技术看得太重，不要对什么"设计"、"框架"看得过于神圣，不要唯技术论，在IBM中architect并不是舒适惬意的工作，受到各方面的压力非常的大，基本上是不可能按照自己的想法去做事的。毕竟软件是个产业，不是基础科学，卖钱是最终目的，因此任何的技术都要为"卖钱"服务，无论在哪个国家哪个公司都是这样，除非你去FSF做自由软件
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我觉得代码就是最好的设计文档，有完善的注释，清晰的函数名，一目了然的类名。然
后给些简单文档描述一下大的架构和类层次就OK了。
基本上，我现在都是用的重构开发，边写边调整，不过我做的项目都不是很大。

说一说我的文档编写历程吧。
1. 在第一家公司，比较重视文档，写代码前必须写好设计文档，那段时间的确锻炼了
我的文档编写能力，也接触了很多的软件工程、软件文档方面的书籍和资料。但是写文
档跟写程序一样，各人有各人的风格，往往相互间还要就文档风格进行争论，并且每个
人都不太想看人家写的，甚至自己写过的都不想再看了。。。
2. 在第二家公司，是过了CMM3的，不过过完就完了，没人真的按CMM3走，那样走会死
人的。。。但是我们使用了迭代开发，而且一直坚持了下来，有位兄弟说他们公司进行
了一半就停了下来，可能是因为你们做的是项目，客户压力相对较大。迭代开发可能更
加适合做产品的公司。在这家公司，我的文档明显就写的少了，只有一些大的架构和设
计上的文档。
3. 如今的公司，我们很少写文档，即使写也坚决不用WORD、VISIO和RATIONAL这些大软
件(太慢，用CVS管理也不方便)，我们只用TXT。业务流程、详细设计这些我们就随手在
纸上画，只是为了帮助理清思路、理解需求和得到设计架构。
最终，我们保留的就是大概两样东西：TXT描述的大体架构(包括类关系)和代码。

侯捷说的好：代码面前了无秘密。 ：）

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[mailto:python-chinese-bounces at lists.python.cn] 代表 limodou
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主题: Re: [python-chinese] [ 谈谈设计]关于详细设计

On 8/3/06, Xiao Lei Wu <xiaoleiw at cn.ibm.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> 也许你们不相信，不用说中国小公司，在IBM里面也不是所有项目都完全按照流程来
的，甚至可以说大部分项目不是按照流程来的
>  比如我现在做的这个项目，FPFS都还没有就开始FVT，甚至是要final
> regression了,文档都是挤牙膏一样的一点一点往外挤
>  最开始企图用最新的叠代开发模式,结果搞到一半发现不行,最后还是退回到瀑布模
式
> 某些已经成熟使用叠代开发模式的项目,原则上一个月出一个fix，结果领导说，如果
是USAF这样的客户有紧急apar，可以例外……
>
> 最后我想奉劝所有刚毕业的年轻人，不要把技术看得太重，不要对什么"设计"、"框
架"看得过于神圣，不要唯技术论，在IBM中architect并不是舒适惬意的工作，受到各
方面的压力非常的大，基本上是不可能按照自己的想法去做事的。毕竟软件是个产业，
不是基础科学，卖钱是最终目的，因此任何的技术都要为"卖钱"服务，无论在哪个国家
哪个公司都是这样，除非你去FSF做自由软件
>
所以如果有文档与代码结合得非常好的方法还是不错的。文学编程，我看好你呦。

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On 8/3/06, netkiller <openunix at 163.com> wrote:
>
>
> 记得有个台湾作家写过一本书，里面讲到微软的软件开发．也一样乱．．里面还有＂包尔模＂把项目做杂的例子．．
> 盖次也作杂过很多项目．
>
这是讨论是为了让我们找到好的方法，而不是因为现状的问题就不去关心。似乎是没人更关心，我们为什么要关心。我觉得别人怎么样是别人的事，我们只需要关心我们怎么做得好就行了。对于想做好的人来说，讨论有意义。对于无所谓，无关紧要的人，既然你没兴趣，也请不要来掺和。

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On 8/3/06, Harry Moo <mobing at gmail.com> wrote:
> 我觉得代码就是最好的设计文档，有完善的注释，清晰的函数名，一目了然的类名。然
> 后给些简单文档描述一下大的架构和类层次就OK了。
> 基本上，我现在都是用的重构开发，边写边调整，不过我做的项目都不是很大。
>
> 说一说我的文档编写历程吧。
> 1. 在第一家公司，比较重视文档，写代码前必须写好设计文档，那段时间的确锻炼了
> 我的文档编写能力，也接触了很多的软件工程、软件文档方面的书籍和资料。但是写文
> 档跟写程序一样，各人有各人的风格，往往相互间还要就文档风格进行争论，并且每个
> 人都不太想看人家写的，甚至自己写过的都不想再看了。。。
> 2. 在第二家公司，是过了CMM3的，不过过完就完了，没人真的按CMM3走，那样走会死
> 人的。。。但是我们使用了迭代开发，而且一直坚持了下来，有位兄弟说他们公司进行
> 了一半就停了下来，可能是因为你们做的是项目，客户压力相对较大。迭代开发可能更
> 加适合做产品的公司。在这家公司，我的文档明显就写的少了，只有一些大的架构和设
> 计上的文档。
> 3. 如今的公司，我们很少写文档，即使写也坚决不用WORD、VISIO和RATIONAL这些大软
> 件(太慢，用CVS管理也不方便)，我们只用TXT。业务流程、详细设计这些我们就随手在
> 纸上画，只是为了帮助理清思路、理解需求和得到设计架构。
> 最终，我们保留的就是大概两样东西：TXT描述的大体架构(包括类关系)和代码。
>
> 侯捷说的好：代码面前了无秘密。 ：）
>
代码少，或短的确没有问题。有些代码非常大，怎么看。如果有一个指南性的代码阅读的东西自嵌在里面不是挺好。看到zoom.quiet讲解的leo，就已经有人把阅读过的内容通过leo给组织起来了，即可以看到整体性的东西，还可以就某一点看到具体的内容。非常好。

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我感觉现在如果真正要用软工来做一个项目，而且同时考虑到现实的因素，也就是基本上想"保质保量"，还是迭代的方式比较好，不过这样做的话，就需要坚持，因为这样是非常累的，而且要有人对流程这些的控制比较好。

在06-8-3，limodou <limodou at gmail.com> 写道：
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> On 8/3/06, netkiller <openunix at 163.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > 记得有个台湾作家写过一本书，里面讲到微软的软件开发．也一样乱．．里面还有＂包尔模＂把项目做杂的例子．．
> > 盖次也作杂过很多项目．
> >
>
> 这是讨论是为了让我们找到好的方法，而不是因为现状的问题就不去关心。似乎是没人更关心，我们为什么要关心。我觉得别人怎么样是别人的事，我们只需要关心我们怎么做得好就行了。对于想做好的人来说，讨论有意义。对于无所谓，无关紧要的人，既然你没兴趣，也请不要来掺和。
>
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我感觉Harry
Moo说的是关于开发的文档，这样做的话也可以，不过比较大的项目我就不大肯定这样可以了。但是开发完这个项目之后呢，如果开发的这批人走了，或者到其他位置上，不负责开发了，那新来的人如何继续这个项目呢，老师傅来带？那熟练的程序员的劳动力就要用到这个地方而不是开发，或者不主要是开发。这样的成本和文档的成本哪个比较高？我觉得这才是问题所在。

在06-8-3，limodou <limodou at gmail.com> 写道：
>
> On 8/3/06, Harry Moo <mobing at gmail.com> wrote:
> > 我觉得代码就是最好的设计文档，有完善的注释，清晰的函数名，一目了然的类名。然
> > 后给些简单文档描述一下大的架构和类层次就OK了。
> > 基本上，我现在都是用的重构开发，边写边调整，不过我做的项目都不是很大。
> >
> > 说一说我的文档编写历程吧。
> > 1. 在第一家公司，比较重视文档，写代码前必须写好设计文档，那段时间的确锻炼了
> > 我的文档编写能力，也接触了很多的软件工程、软件文档方面的书籍和资料。但是写文
> > 档跟写程序一样，各人有各人的风格，往往相互间还要就文档风格进行争论，并且每个
> > 人都不太想看人家写的，甚至自己写过的都不想再看了。。。
> > 2. 在第二家公司，是过了CMM3的，不过过完就完了，没人真的按CMM3走，那样走会死
> > 人的。。。但是我们使用了迭代开发，而且一直坚持了下来，有位兄弟说他们公司进行
> > 了一半就停了下来，可能是因为你们做的是项目，客户压力相对较大。迭代开发可能更
> > 加适合做产品的公司。在这家公司，我的文档明显就写的少了，只有一些大的架构和设
> > 计上的文档。
> > 3. 如今的公司，我们很少写文档，即使写也坚决不用WORD、VISIO和RATIONAL这些大软
> > 件(太慢，用CVS管理也不方便)，我们只用TXT。业务流程、详细设计这些我们就随手在
> > 纸上画，只是为了帮助理清思路、理解需求和得到设计架构。
> > 最终，我们保留的就是大概两样东西：TXT描述的大体架构(包括类关系)和代码。
> >
> > 侯捷说的好：代码面前了无秘密。 ：）
> >
> 代码少，或短的确没有问题。有些代码非常大，怎么看。如果有一个指南性的代码阅读的东西自嵌在里面不是挺好。看到zoom.quiet讲解的leo，
> 就已经有人把阅读过的内容通过leo给组织起来了，即可以看到整体性的东西，还可以就某一点看到具体的内容。非常好。
>
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哈哈．．为什么这批人走了？？ 是什么原因？　走一个两个还可以理解．．一批！是公司自做涅。

在这种情况下老师傅是不会带他们的．．教会了徒弟饿死师傅．

大中型项目一般．新手接手要几个月到半年才甚至一年以上．才能真正了解这个项目．

我就做过很多二次开发．．文档也就几十页．很多文档写的很差．你跟本理解不了他的意思．
主要是自己跑程序，然后自己分析，画图，理清流程．功能．有时这比看那些很差的文档强．
然后要客户来确认．
至于代码是怎么运作的就得看你的跟终调式的经验,手段．

我都是这么干的．．

关写文档．你还是老实的按GB或ISO,或CMM什么其它的．做为模板．　都搞自己的标准不是什么好事．


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  我感觉Harry Moo说的是关于开发的文档，这样做的话也可以，不过比较大的项目我就不大肯定这样可以了。但是开发完这个项目之后呢，如果开发的这批人走了，或者到其他位置上，不负责开发了，那新来的人如何继续这个项目呢，老师傅来带？那熟练的程序员的劳动力就要用到这个地方而不是开发，或者不主要是开发。这样的成本和文档的成本哪个比较高？我觉得这才是问题所在。


  在06-8-3， limodou <limodou at gmail.com> 写道：
    On 8/3/06, Harry Moo <mobing at gmail.com> wrote:
    > 我觉得代码就是最好的设计文档，有完善的注释，清晰的函数名，一目了然的类名。然
    > 后给些简单文档描述一下大的架构和类层次就OK了。
    > 基本上，我现在都是用的重构开发，边写边调整，不过我做的项目都不是很大。
    > 
    > 说一说我的文档编写历程吧。
    > 1. 在第一家公司，比较重视文档，写代码前必须写好设计文档，那段时间的确锻炼了
    > 我的文档编写能力，也接触了很多的软件工程、软件文档方面的书籍和资料。但是写文
    > 档跟写程序一样，各人有各人的风格，往往相互间还要就文档风格进行争论，并且每个
    > 人都不太想看人家写的，甚至自己写过的都不想再看了。。。
    > 2. 在第二家公司，是过了CMM3的，不过过完就完了，没人真的按CMM3走，那样走会死 
    > 人的。。。但是我们使用了迭代开发，而且一直坚持了下来，有位兄弟说他们公司进行
    > 了一半就停了下来，可能是因为你们做的是项目，客户压力相对较大。迭代开发可能更
    > 加适合做产品的公司。在这家公司，我的文档明显就写的少了，只有一些大的架构和设
    > 计上的文档。
    > 3. 如今的公司，我们很少写文档，即使写也坚决不用WORD、VISIO和RATIONAL这些大软
    > 件(太慢，用CVS管理也不方便)，我们只用TXT。业务流程、详细设计这些我们就随手在 
    > 纸上画，只是为了帮助理清思路、理解需求和得到设计架构。
    > 最终，我们保留的就是大概两样东西：TXT描述的大体架构(包括类关系)和代码。
    >
    > 侯捷说的好：代码面前了无秘密。 ：）
    >
    代码少，或短的确没有问题。有些代码非常大，怎么看。如果有一个指南性的代码阅读的东西自嵌在里面不是挺好。看到zoom.quiet讲解的leo，就已经有人把阅读过的内容通过leo给组织起来了，即可以看到整体性的东西，还可以就某一点看到具体的内容。非常好。 

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我认为好的文档是必要的。文档的使用关键不在开发过程中，可能开始的时候觉得很小的问题随手就解决不需要文档，但是到后来的实施过程中或者程序修改n遍（有时候你的客户需求可能变来变去）之后就会感觉文档的重要了。

在06-8-3，yao qu <thinkinnight at gmail.com> 写道：
>
> 我感觉Harry
> Moo说的是关于开发的文档，这样做的话也可以，不过比较大的项目我就不大肯定这样可以了。但是开发完这个项目之后呢，如果开发的这批人走了，或者到其他位置上，不负责开发了，那新来的人如何继续这个项目呢，老师傅来带？那熟练的程序员的劳动力就要用到这个地方而不是开发，或者不主要是开发。这样的成本和文档的成本哪个比较高？我觉得这才是问题所在。
>
> 在06-8-3， limodou <limodou at gmail.com> 写道：
> >
> > On 8/3/06, Harry Moo <mobing at gmail.com> wrote:
> > 我觉得代码就是最好的设计文档，有完善的注释，清晰的函数名，一目了然的类名。然
> > 后给些简单文档描述一下大的架构和类层次就OK了。
> > 基本上，我现在都是用的重构开发，边写边调整，不过我做的项目都不是很大。
> >
> > 说一说我的文档编写历程吧。
> > 1. 在第一家公司，比较重视文档，写代码前必须写好设计文档，那段时间的确锻炼了
> > 我的文档编写能力，也接触了很多的软件工程、软件文档方面的书籍和资料。但是写文
> > 档跟写程序一样，各人有各人的风格，往往相互间还要就文档风格进行争论，并且每个
> > 人都不太想看人家写的，甚至自己写过的都不想再看了。。。
> > 2. 在第二家公司，是过了CMM3的，不过过完就完了，没人真的按CMM3走，那样走会死
> > 人的。。。但是我们使用了迭代开发，而且一直坚持了下来，有位兄弟说他们公司进行
> > 了一半就停了下来，可能是因为你们做的是项目，客户压力相对较大。迭代开发可能更
> > 加适合做产品的公司。在这家公司，我的文档明显就写的少了，只有一些大的架构和设
> > 计上的文档。
> > 3. 如今的公司，我们很少写文档，即使写也坚决不用WORD、VISIO和RATIONAL这些大软
> > 件(太慢，用CVS管理也不方便)，我们只用TXT。业务流程、详细设计这些我们就随手在
> > 纸上画，只是为了帮助理清思路、理解需求和得到设计架构。
> > 最终，我们保留的就是大概两样东西：TXT描述的大体架构(包括类关系)和代码。
> >
> > 侯捷说的好：代码面前了无秘密。 ：）
> >
> 代码少，或短的确没有问题。有些代码非常大，怎么看。如果有一个指南性的代码阅读的东西自嵌在里面不是挺好。看到zoom.quiet讲解的leo，就已经有人把阅读过的内容通过leo给组织起来了，即可以看到整体性的东西，还可以就某一点看到具体的内容。非常好。
>
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On 8/3/06, 刘国栋 <liuguodong at gmail.com> wrote:
> 我认为好的文档是必要的。文档的使用关键不在开发过程中，可能开始的时候觉得很小的问题随手就解决不需要文档，但是到后来的实施过程中或者程序修改n遍（有时候你的客户需求可能变来变去）之后就会感觉文档的重要了。
>
没必要再讨论文档是否需要，是否好。这些大家都知道。主要是如何把文档和编码快乐和轻松的结合起来，这才是关键。没有一个好的方法，没有一个好的工具，写文档和编程序严重脱离，这样是很难完成好的文档。

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