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> >
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> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > *From:* python-chinese-bounces在lists.python.cn [mailto:
> > python-chinese-bounces在lists.python.cn] *On Behalf Of *Tian
> > *Sent:* Thursday, July 05, 2007 1:07 PM
> > *To:* python-chinese在lists.python.cn
> > *Subject:* Re: [python-chinese]´ð¸´: ´ó¼ÒÀ´ËµËµ×Ô¼ºÔÚʵ¼Ê¹¤×÷ÖÐÓ¦ÓÃPythonµÄ°¸Àý°É
> >
> > otÏ  ËûµÄgmailΪʲô¿ÉÒÔÖ»ÓÐ3λ¡£¡£
> >
> > On 7/5/07, Alex Cheng <chengxin1985在gmail.com > wrote:
> > >
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> > > ÎÒµÄÇ°Àϰ壬һ¸öºÜÇ¿µÄ³ÌÐòÔ±¡£
> > >
> > >
> > > ÔÚ07-7-5£¬ trail . <caiyin3在gmail.com> дµÀ£º
> > > >
> > > > I agree with you and I also think about that there is no need to
> > > > talk about which one is better
> > > >
> > > > ÔÚ07-7-5£¬zhuye < zhuye在huaqin.com > дµÀ£º
> > > > >
> > > > >  ÔÚÈκÎÒ»¸ö¿ª·¢Õß´æÔڵĵط½Ö»ÒªÌáµ½ C/C++²»Èç XXX
> > > > >
> > > > > ±ØÈ»¾Í»áÒýÆðÒ»³¡¿Úˮս
> > > > >
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> > > > >
> > > > >
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> > > > >
> > > > > *·¢¼þÈË:* python-chinese-bounces在lists.python.cn [mailto:
> > > > > python-chinese-bounces在lists<python-chinese-bounces在lists.python.cn>.python.cn<python-chinese-bounces在lists.python.cn>]
> > > > > *´ú±í *XiaQ
> > > > > * ·¢ËÍʱ¼ä:* 2007 Äê7 ÔÂ5ÈÕ 11:08
> > > > > *ÊÕ¼þÈË: *python-chinese在lists.python.cn
> > > > > *Ö÷Ìâ:* Re: [python-chinese] ´ó¼ÒÀ´ËµËµ×Ô¼ºÔÚʵ¼Ê¹¤×÷ÖÐÓ¦ÓÃPythonµÄ°¸Àý°É
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ´ó¼Ò²»¾õµÃÕâ¸öthreadµÄÌÖÂÛÒѾ­Æ«ÀëÖ÷ÌâÁËÂð '':-|
> > > > >
> > > > > ¿´¿´±êÌâ *´ó¼ÒÀ´ËµËµ×Ô¼ºÔÚʵ¼Ê¹¤×÷ÖÐÓ¦ÓÃPythonµÄ°¸Àý°É*
> > > > >
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> > > > >
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> > > > >
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> > ÔÚ07-7-5£¬ Liming_Do <Liming_Do在smics.com> дµÀ£º
> > >
> > >  Ã÷ÏÔÊÇ×îÔç½ÓÊÜÑûÇëµÄÒ»ÅúÈËÂï
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > *From:* python-chinese-bounces在lists.python.cn [mailto:
> > > python-chinese-bounces在lists.python.cn] *On Behalf Of *Tian
> > > *Sent:* Thursday, July 05, 2007 1:07 PM
> > > *To:* python-chinese在lists.python.cn
> > > *Subject:* Re: [python-chinese]´ð¸´: ´ó¼ÒÀ´ËµËµ×Ô¼ºÔÚʵ¼Ê¹¤×÷ÖÐÓ¦ÓÃPythonµÄ°¸Àý°É
> > >
> > > otÏ  ËûµÄgmailΪʲô¿ÉÒÔÖ»ÓÐ3λ¡£¡£
> > >
> > > On 7/5/07, Alex Cheng <chengxin1985在gmail.com > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > ÎÒ֮ǰµÄÒ»¸ö¹«Ë¾ÊÇÓÃpython ±à³Ì£¬ÔÚ¹úÄÚÕâÑùµÄ¹«Ë¾²»ÊǺܶࡣÎÒºÜÇìÐÒµ±Ê±¼ÓÈëÁËËü£¬Ñ§»áʹÓÃPython×öÈí¼þ¡£
> > > > ÏÖÔÚÈç¹ûÄÇλͬѧϣÍûÕÒµ½Ò»¸ö×öpython µÄְ룬ÄǼҹ«Ë¾ÊÇÒ»¸ö²»´íµÄÑ¡Ôñ¡£ÄãÃÇ¿ÉÒÔ·¢ÐŸø pin在gmail.com,
> > > > ÎÒµÄÇ°Àϰ壬һ¸öºÜÇ¿µÄ³ÌÐòÔ±¡£
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ÔÚ07-7-5£¬ trail . <caiyin3在gmail.com> дµÀ£º
> > > > >
> > > > > I agree with you and I also think about that there is no need to
> > > > > talk about which one is better
> > > > >
> > > > > ÔÚ07-7-5£¬zhuye < zhuye在huaqin.com > дµÀ£º
> > > > > >
> > > > > >  ÔÚÈκÎÒ»¸ö¿ª·¢Õß´æÔڵĵط½Ö»ÒªÌáµ½ C/C++²»Èç XXX
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ±ØÈ»¾Í»áÒýÆðÒ»³¡¿Úˮս
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ÎÞÒ»ÀýÍâ
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >  ------------------------------
> > > > > >
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> > > > > > python-chinese-bounces在lists<python-chinese-bounces在lists.python.cn>.python.cn<python-chinese-bounces在lists.python.cn>]
> > > > > > *´ú±í *XiaQ
> > > > > > * ·¢ËÍʱ¼ä: *2007 Äê7 ÔÂ5ÈÕ 11:08
> > > > > > *ÊÕ¼þÈË: *python-chinese在lists.python.cn
> > > > > > *Ö÷Ìâ:* Re: [python-chinese] ´ó¼ÒÀ´ËµËµ×Ô¼ºÔÚʵ¼Ê¹¤×÷ÖÐÓ¦ÓÃPythonµÄ°¸Àý°É
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ´ó¼Ò²»¾õµÃÕâ¸öthreadµÄÌÖÂÛÒѾ­Æ«ÀëÖ÷ÌâÁËÂð '':-|
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ¿´¿´±êÌâ *´ó¼ÒÀ´ËµËµ×Ô¼ºÔÚʵ¼Ê¹¤×÷ÖÐÓ¦ÓÃPythonµÄ°¸Àý°É*
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On 7/5/07, Alex Cheng <chengxin1985在gmail.com> wrote:
> 之前我参与的那个项目完全是用python 写的:P
>
不愧是Google 系的，这么前瞻性的技术架构也成功了..

> 其中web应用使用的是zope做应用程序服务器。
>
> 感觉受益很多。
>
>
>
> 在07-7-5，pt42 <pt4200在gmail.com > 写道：
> >
> > PYTHON的开发速度快
> > 在一些很个性需求的时候，用PYTHON写程序比去找合用的程序要方便
> >
> >
> > 在07-7-5，Alex Cheng <chengxin1985在gmail.com > 写道：
> > >
> > > 道歉道歉，写错了, 他的邮箱地址是: pin在waven.com, 是google的企业邮箱
> > >
> > >
> > > 在07-7-5， Liming_Do <Liming_Do在smics.com> 写道：
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 明显是最早接受邀请的一批人嘛
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: python-chinese-bounces在lists.python.cn
> [mailto:python-chinese-bounces在lists.python.cn ] On Behalf
> Of Tian
> > > > Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2007 1:07 PM
> > > > To: python-chinese在lists.python.cn
> > > > Subject: Re: [python-chinese]答复: 大家来说说自己在实际工作中应用Python的案例吧
> > > >
> > > > ot下  他的gmail为什么可以只有3位。。
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 7/5/07, Alex Cheng <chengxin1985在gmail.com > wrote:
> > > > > 我之前的一个公司是用python
> 编程，在国内这样的公司不是很多。我很庆幸当时加入了它，学会使用Python做软件。
> 现在如果那位同学希望找到一个做python 的职位，那家公司是一个不错的选择。你们可以发信给 pin在gmail.com,
> 我的前老板，一个很强的程序员。
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > 在07-7-5， trail . <caiyin3在gmail.com> 写道：
> > > > >
> > > > > > I agree with you and I also think about that there is no need to
> talk about which one is better
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 在07-7-5，zhuye < zhuye在huaqin.com > 写道：
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 在任何一个开发者存在的地方只要提到 C/C++不如 XXX
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 必然就会引起一场口水战
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 无一例外
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ________________________________
>
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 发件人: python-chinese-bounces在lists.python.cn
> [mailto:python-chinese-bounces在lists .python.cn] 代表 XiaQ
> > > > > > > 发送时间: 2007 年7 月5日 11:08
> > > > > > > 收件人: python-chinese在lists.python.cn
> > > > > > > 主题: Re: [python-chinese] 大家来说说自己在实际工作中应用Python的案例吧
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 大家不觉得这个thread的讨论已经偏离主题了吗 '':-|
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 看看标题 大家来说说自己在实际工作中应用Python的案例吧
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 不过这么热的thread还是头次见到，加星了
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至于最近嘛, 我正在著手退出江湖, 研習演奏譜曲, 積極向演藝圈發展。

順便說一下, 那兩個坑小弟還在填, 歡迎來搞 :D
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在 07-7-5，Adun<blizzardadun在gmail.com> 写道：
> 崴兄，最近在哪混啊？
>
> ps:这实在是一个很无聊的讨论啊。对了，谁说STL效率很低来着？具体是那部分效率低下呢？
>
> 在07-7-5，Li Qingfeng <liqfemail在gmail.com> 写道：
> >
> 我发现用boost.python可以很好的解决矛盾。这种高强度的科学计算在没有现成的python库时可以用boost.python封装C/C++来解决问题；其它情况尽可能用python写代码，开发效率高啊。
> >
> >
> > 在07-7-5，zeng bobby < bobby.zeng在gmail.com> 写道：
> >
> > > 赞同Xin LI的意见，"语言只是用于实现需要的工具而已"。
> > >
> > > 对不同的工作选择适合并熟悉的工具。
> > >
> > > 以前我用C++工作，现在也使用Python，有时还要两者同时使用。
> > >
> > >
> > > 在07-7-4，Xin LI < delphij在delphij.net> 写道：
> > >
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呵呵, 謝謝 Alex 的關心, 倒是有這個打算, 但是不知道自己實力能否勝任 ;)

…… 好像已經跑題很遠了, 在此向 Li Qingfeng 致歉, 請樓下繼續回到主題上來吧。

在 07-7-5，Alex Cheng<chengxin1985在gmail.com> 写道：
> 沈同学说要进军演艺圈，真的假的啊？
>
> 在07-7-5，沈崴 <wileishn在gmail.com> 写道：
> > Hi, Adun 兄, 代我向諸位問好。今日幸得一見足見當年少喝了幾壇酒, 不日造訪補上。
> >
> > 至于最近嘛, 我正在著手退出江湖, 研習演奏譜曲, 積極向演藝圈發展。
> >
> > 順便說一下, 那兩個坑小弟還在填, 歡迎來搞 :D
> > http://code.google.com/p/eurasia/
> > http://code.google.com/p/njf/
> >
> > 在 07-7-5，Adun<blizzardadun在gmail.com> 写道：
> > > 崴兄，最近在哪混啊？
> > >
> > > ps:这实在是一个很无聊的讨论啊。对了，谁说STL效率很低来着？具体是那部分效率低下呢？
> > >
> > > 在07-7-5，Li Qingfeng <liqfemail在gmail.com> 写道：
> > > >
> > >
> 我发现用boost.python可以很好的解决矛盾。这种高强度的科学计算在没有现成的python库时可以用boost.python封装C/C++来解决问题；其它情况尽可能用python写代码，开发效率高啊。
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 在07-7-5，zeng bobby < bobby.zeng在gmail.com> 写道：
> > > >
> > > > > 赞同Xin LI的意见，"语言只是用于实现需要的工具而已"。
> > > > >
> > > > > 对不同的工作选择适合并熟悉的工具。
> > > > >
> > > > > 以前我用C++工作，现在也使用Python，有时还要两者同时使用。
> > > > >
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无聊看了下。我觉得讨论 Python 的效率和 C/C++ 孰优孰劣是非常没有意义的一 
件事。Python 是语言，不与任何实现绑定。只有具体实现才谈得上效率问题。如 
果必须要谈语言的效率，只能从实现的最大化优化手段上来分析。比方说，C/C++ 
效率高，因为纯的命令式语言可用作循环不变量外提等优化，但必须处处小心翼 
翼。Python 是带有高阶函数支持的命令式语言，本身必须把函数分配在堆上，而 
又不能作内联扩展优化，是比较痛苦的。至于为什么能程序员有时能写出效率比 
C/C++ 高的 Python 程序，是因为需要考虑的方面少，在内存分配、哈希表等方面 
依赖内部实现和扩展库，权当是机制；而 C/C++ 常因为程序员自作聪明实现某些 
他水平不及的东西导致程序的运行效率低下。所以我们可以看出，动态语言其实是 
一种合理分配人力资源，协调生产力的方法，某种程度上可以提高程序的执行效率。

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