2008年04月17日 星期四 22:24
不好意思,帮俺看看翻译的对吗,另外,他还有话说,也在那个link里。 Zoom.Quiet 写道: > that clean! 可惜明白人,总是比 Troll 要少,所以... > > 2008/4/17 Alex Peng <Alex.Peng at sun.com>: > >> >> >> >> >> 我给翻译了,唉。 >> >> >> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >> >> >> 这里有原文 >> >> >> >> http://developers.slashdot.org/developers/08/04/16/2337224.shtml >> >> 请看Marten Mickos的话: >> >> Thanks for all the comments on this. We are listening attentively. Let me >> clarify some facts: >> - 谢谢所有的评论。我们在认真地倾听。请让我澄清一些事实: >> >> * The business decision on this was made by MySQL AB (by me as the then >> CEO) prior to the acquisition by Sun, so this has nothing to do with Sun. On >> the contrary, Sun is more likely to influence this decision the other way. >> >> - 这个商务决定是由MySQL AB(在我任CEO时)做出的,发生在被Sun收购之前,所 >> 以这跟Sun无关。相反的,Sun更倾向于向相反的方向引导这个决策。 >> >> * It is not a quesiton of close sourcing any existing code, nor anything in >> the core server. Everything we have released under GPL continues to be under >> GPL, and the core server will always be under GPL (or some other FOSS >> licence). >> >> - 这不是要闭源任何已有的代码,也与core server无关。我们已有的按GPL开放的 代码将继续服从GPL,core >> server将永远遵从GPL(或其它FOSS licence)。 >> >> * We will introduce backup functionality for all users (Community and >> Enterprise) under GPL in version 6.0. >> >> - 我们将在6.0版本里按GPL为所有用户(社区版和企业版,Community and Enterprise)提供备份功能。 >> >> >> * Additionally we will develop high-end add-ons (such as encryption, native >> storage engine-specific drivers) that we will deliver to customers in the >> MySQL Enterprise product only. We have not yet decided under what licence we >> will release those add-ons (GPL, some other FOSS licence, and/or >> commercial). >> >> - 另外,我们将开发一些高端增值功能(high-end add-ons) (如encryption, native storage >> engine-specific drivers),这些将只为MySQL Enterprise的用 >> 户提供。我们尚未决定我们将使用什么样的license来release这些功能(GPL, 其它 一些FOSS licence, 和/或 商业 >> licence)。 >> >> >> * At all times, because the main backup functionality goes into the core >> server under GPL, anyone can of course use the api and build their own >> add-ons or other modifications. >> >> - 在任何时候,因为最主要的备份功能是被集成在core server中的,也遵从GPL, >> 任何人当然都可以使用api来构建他们自己的增值功能或是进行修正。 >> >> >> Those are the facts on this. The interesting topic is of course the one of >> the business model and what the best business model for FOSS software is. I >> hope to cover that in a separate posting. >> >> - 以上是关于此事的一些事实。有趣的题目当然是与商业模式及什么是对FOSS软件 最好的商业模式。我希望能在另一个帖子里讨论。 >> >> In all of this, you have our undivided continued commitment to providing a >> fantastic and complete MySQL server under GPL for anyone to download and >> use. If we for whatever reason would not do that, we would risk losing users >> to other open source databases or risk seeing a fork of our own product. >> This is the power of open source. >> >> - 不管怎样,我们将在GPL下为任何人提供优良的完整的MySQL server,您可以下 >> 载和使用,这是我们完全的承诺。如果我们背离了这个承诺,我们的用户可能会弃 我们而去,使用其它的开源数据库,或是将产生一个我们自己产品的复制品 >> (fork)。这是开源的威力。 >> >> Make sense? >> - 解释清楚了吗? >> >> >> Marten >> previously CEO of MySQL, now SVP at Sun >> - MySQL前CEO,现Sun SVP >> >> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >> >> >> Alex Peng 写道: >> >> >> >> >>> 请耐心看完 >>> http://developers.slashdot.org/developers/08/04/16/2337224.shtml >>> >>> 找其中 Marten Mikos 的部分,不幸的是没有被翻译成中文。:( >>> 诸位如果认可他的解释,请广为告知。 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Alex Peng 写道: >>> >>> >>> >>>> 最原始的link在这里,包括有martin的解释。 >>>> >>>> >> http://jcole.us/blog/archives/2008/04/14/just-announced-mysql-to-launch-new-features-only-in-mysql-enterprise/ >> >>>> 让我再去打探一番。 >>>> >>>> >>>> Zoom.Quiet 写道: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> 正是担心这方面的事儿哪... >>>>> >>>>> 2008/4/17 Willow <Chengyin.Liu at gmail.com>: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Sent to you by Willow via Google Reader: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Sun开始关闭MySQL部分功能的源代码 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> http://developers.solidot.org/article.pl?sid=08/04/17/0759217&from;=rss >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> via Solidot by matrix on 4/17/08 >>>>>> 来自MySQL用户大会的消息,Sun宣布、MySQL前CEO Marten >>>>>> >>>>>> >> Mickos证实,太阳微系统公司将封闭部分MySQL的代码。Sun开始关闭MySQL备份方案的源代码,许多高级功能的代码也将不再开放。当Oracle收购了MySQL使用的数据引擎公司Innodb后,它采用了GPL许可发布,这是否意味着MySQL可能去除它,以引入这些的新特性?Sun在真正的开源方面有着糟糕的历史。 >> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Things you can do from here: >>>>>> Subscribe to Solidot using Google Reader >>>>>> Get started using Google Reader to easily keep up with all your >>>>>> >> favorite >> >>>>>> sites >>>>>> >>>>>> --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ >>>>>> "Copy&Paste; Exchange" group. >>>>>> http://groups-beta.google.com/group/mindex?hl=zh-CN >>>>>> -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> zeuux-universe mailing list >>>> zeuux-universe at zeuux.org >>>> http://www.zeuux.org/mailman/listinfo/zeuux-universe >>>> >>>> ZEUUX Project - Free Software, Free Society! >>>> http://www.zeuux.org >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> zeuux-universe mailing list >>> zeuux-universe at zeuux.org >>> http://www.zeuux.org/mailman/listinfo/zeuux-universe >>> >>> ZEUUX Project - Free Software, Free Society! >>> http://www.zeuux.org >>> >>> >>> >> > > > >
2008年04月18日 星期五 09:40
Alex, 你可以考虑写个新闻稿,然后通过哲思发表出去,以反应客观事实。 Alex Peng 写道: > 不好意思,帮俺看看翻译的对吗,另外,他还有话说,也在那个link里。 > > > > > Zoom.Quiet 写道: > >> that clean! 可惜明白人,总是比 Troll 要少,所以... >> >> 2008/4/17 Alex Peng <Alex.Peng at sun.com>: >> >> >>> >>> >>> 我给翻译了,唉。 >>> >>> >>> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >>> >>> >>> 这里有原文 >>> >>> >>> >>> http://developers.slashdot.org/developers/08/04/16/2337224.shtml >>> >>> 请看Marten Mickos的话: >>> >>> Thanks for all the comments on this. We are listening attentively. Let me >>> clarify some facts: >>> - 谢谢所有的评论。我们在认真地倾听。请让我澄清一些事实: >>> >>> * The business decision on this was made by MySQL AB (by me as the then >>> CEO) prior to the acquisition by Sun, so this has nothing to do with Sun. On >>> the contrary, Sun is more likely to influence this decision the other way. >>> >>> - 这个商务决定是由MySQL AB(在我任CEO时)做出的,发生在被Sun收购之前,所 >>> 以这跟Sun无关。相反的,Sun更倾向于向相反的方向引导这个决策。 >>> >>> * It is not a quesiton of close sourcing any existing code, nor anything in >>> the core server. Everything we have released under GPL continues to be under >>> GPL, and the core server will always be under GPL (or some other FOSS >>> licence). >>> >>> - 这不是要闭源任何已有的代码,也与core server无关。我们已有的按GPL开放的 代码将继续服从GPL,core >>> server将永远遵从GPL(或其它FOSS licence)。 >>> >>> * We will introduce backup functionality for all users (Community and >>> Enterprise) under GPL in version 6.0. >>> >>> - 我们将在6.0版本里按GPL为所有用户(社区版和企业版,Community and Enterprise)提供备份功能。 >>> >>> >>> * Additionally we will develop high-end add-ons (such as encryption, native >>> storage engine-specific drivers) that we will deliver to customers in the >>> MySQL Enterprise product only. We have not yet decided under what licence we >>> will release those add-ons (GPL, some other FOSS licence, and/or >>> commercial). >>> >>> - 另外,我们将开发一些高端增值功能(high-end add-ons) (如encryption, native storage >>> engine-specific drivers),这些将只为MySQL Enterprise的用 >>> 户提供。我们尚未决定我们将使用什么样的license来release这些功能(GPL, 其它 一些FOSS licence, 和/或 商业 >>> licence)。 >>> >>> >>> * At all times, because the main backup functionality goes into the core >>> server under GPL, anyone can of course use the api and build their own >>> add-ons or other modifications. >>> >>> - 在任何时候,因为最主要的备份功能是被集成在core server中的,也遵从GPL, >>> 任何人当然都可以使用api来构建他们自己的增值功能或是进行修正。 >>> >>> >>> Those are the facts on this. The interesting topic is of course the one of >>> the business model and what the best business model for FOSS software is. I >>> hope to cover that in a separate posting. >>> >>> - 以上是关于此事的一些事实。有趣的题目当然是与商业模式及什么是对FOSS软件 最好的商业模式。我希望能在另一个帖子里讨论。 >>> >>> In all of this, you have our undivided continued commitment to providing a >>> fantastic and complete MySQL server under GPL for anyone to download and >>> use. If we for whatever reason would not do that, we would risk losing users >>> to other open source databases or risk seeing a fork of our own product. >>> This is the power of open source. >>> >>> - 不管怎样,我们将在GPL下为任何人提供优良的完整的MySQL server,您可以下 >>> 载和使用,这是我们完全的承诺。如果我们背离了这个承诺,我们的用户可能会弃 我们而去,使用其它的开源数据库,或是将产生一个我们自己产品的复制品 >>> (fork)。这是开源的威力。 >>> >>> Make sense? >>> - 解释清楚了吗? >>> >>> >>> Marten >>> previously CEO of MySQL, now SVP at Sun >>> - MySQL前CEO,现Sun SVP >>> >>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >>> >>> >>> Alex Peng 写道: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> 请耐心看完 >>>> http://developers.slashdot.org/developers/08/04/16/2337224.shtml >>>> >>>> 找其中 Marten Mikos 的部分,不幸的是没有被翻译成中文。:( >>>> 诸位如果认可他的解释,请广为告知。 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Alex Peng 写道: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> 最原始的link在这里,包括有martin的解释。 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>> http://jcole.us/blog/archives/2008/04/14/just-announced-mysql-to-launch-new-features-only-in-mysql-enterprise/ >>> >>> >>>>> 让我再去打探一番。 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Zoom.Quiet 写道: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> 正是担心这方面的事儿哪... >>>>>> >>>>>> 2008/4/17 Willow <Chengyin.Liu at gmail.com>: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Sent to you by Willow via Google Reader: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sun开始关闭MySQL部分功能的源代码 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> http://developers.solidot.org/article.pl?sid=08/04/17/0759217&from;=rss >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> via Solidot by matrix on 4/17/08 >>>>>>> 来自MySQL用户大会的消息,Sun宣布、MySQL前CEO Marten >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>> Mickos证实,太阳微系统公司将封闭部分MySQL的代码。Sun开始关闭MySQL备份方案的源代码,许多高级功能的代码也将不再开放。当Oracle收购了MySQL使用的数据引擎公司Innodb后,它采用了GPL许可发布,这是否意味着MySQL可能去除它,以引入这些的新特性?Sun在真正的开源方面有着糟糕的历史。 >>> >>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Things you can do from here: >>>>>>> Subscribe to Solidot using Google Reader >>>>>>> Get started using Google Reader to easily keep up with all your >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>> favorite >>> >>> >>>>>>> sites >>>>>>> >>>>>>> --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ >>>>>>> "Copy&Paste; Exchange" group. >>>>>>> http://groups-beta.google.com/group/mindex?hl=zh-CN >>>>>>> -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> zeuux-universe mailing list >>>>> zeuux-universe at zeuux.org >>>>> http://www.zeuux.org/mailman/listinfo/zeuux-universe >>>>> >>>>> ZEUUX Project - Free Software, Free Society! >>>>> http://www.zeuux.org >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> zeuux-universe mailing list >>>> zeuux-universe at zeuux.org >>>> http://www.zeuux.org/mailman/listinfo/zeuux-universe >>>> >>>> ZEUUX Project - Free Software, Free Society! >>>> http://www.zeuux.org >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > zeuux-universe mailing list > zeuux-universe at zeuux.org > http://www.zeuux.org/mailman/listinfo/zeuux-universe > > ZEUUX Project - Free Software, Free Society! > http://www.zeuux.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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2008年04月18日 星期五 10:03
我还不知道该怎么写呢。 呵呵。谢谢关心。 不过再次发现看第一手材料的必要性。这类网站的中文版是他们自己做的吗,还是 外包的,还是网友自发维护的?好奇。 又及,上文的题目有点问题 - "开始关闭”,其实是尚未发生,关闭与否尚未决 定。现在才release 5。1版,他说的大概是6。0以后的事。 Bill Xu 写道: > Alex, > > 你可以考虑写个新闻稿,然后通过哲思发表出去,以反应客观事实。 > > > Alex Peng 写道: >> 不好意思,帮俺看看翻译的对吗,另外,他还有话说,也在那个link里。 >> >> >> >> >> Zoom.Quiet 写道: >> >>> that clean! 可惜明白人,总是比 Troll 要少,所以... >>> >>> 2008/4/17 Alex Peng <Alex.Peng at sun.com>: >>> >>> >>>> >>>> 我给翻译了,唉。 >>>> >>>> >>>> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >>>> >>>> >>>> 这里有原文 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> http://developers.slashdot.org/developers/08/04/16/2337224.shtml >>>> >>>> 请看Marten Mickos的话: >>>> >>>> Thanks for all the comments on this. We are listening attentively. Let me >>>> clarify some facts: >>>> - 谢谢所有的评论。我们在认真地倾听。请让我澄清一些事实: >>>> >>>> * The business decision on this was made by MySQL AB (by me as the then >>>> CEO) prior to the acquisition by Sun, so this has nothing to do with Sun. On >>>> the contrary, Sun is more likely to influence this decision the other way. >>>> >>>> - 这个商务决定是由MySQL AB(在我任CEO时)做出的,发生在被Sun收购之前,所 >>>> 以这跟Sun无关。相反的,Sun更倾向于向相反的方向引导这个决策。 >>>> >>>> * It is not a quesiton of close sourcing any existing code, nor anything in >>>> the core server. Everything we have released under GPL continues to be under >>>> GPL, and the core server will always be under GPL (or some other FOSS >>>> licence). >>>> >>>> - 这不是要闭源任何已有的代码,也与core server无关。我们已有的按GPL开放的 代码将继续服从GPL,core >>>> server将永远遵从GPL(或其它FOSS licence)。 >>>> >>>> * We will introduce backup functionality for all users (Community and >>>> Enterprise) under GPL in version 6.0. >>>> >>>> - 我们将在6.0版本里按GPL为所有用户(社区版和企业版,Community and Enterprise)提供备份功能。 >>>> >>>> >>>> * Additionally we will develop high-end add-ons (such as encryption, native >>>> storage engine-specific drivers) that we will deliver to customers in the >>>> MySQL Enterprise product only. We have not yet decided under what licence we >>>> will release those add-ons (GPL, some other FOSS licence, and/or >>>> commercial). >>>> >>>> - 另外,我们将开发一些高端增值功能(high-end add-ons) (如encryption, native storage >>>> engine-specific drivers),这些将只为MySQL Enterprise的用 >>>> 户提供。我们尚未决定我们将使用什么样的license来release这些功能(GPL, 其它 一些FOSS licence, 和/或 商业 >>>> licence)。 >>>> >>>> >>>> * At all times, because the main backup functionality goes into the core >>>> server under GPL, anyone can of course use the api and build their own >>>> add-ons or other modifications. >>>> >>>> - 在任何时候,因为最主要的备份功能是被集成在core server中的,也遵从GPL, >>>> 任何人当然都可以使用api来构建他们自己的增值功能或是进行修正。 >>>> >>>> >>>> Those are the facts on this. The interesting topic is of course the one of >>>> the business model and what the best business model for FOSS software is. I >>>> hope to cover that in a separate posting. >>>> >>>> - 以上是关于此事的一些事实。有趣的题目当然是与商业模式及什么是对FOSS软件 最好的商业模式。我希望能在另一个帖子里讨论。 >>>> >>>> In all of this, you have our undivided continued commitment to providing a >>>> fantastic and complete MySQL server under GPL for anyone to download and >>>> use. If we for whatever reason would not do that, we would risk losing users >>>> to other open source databases or risk seeing a fork of our own product. >>>> This is the power of open source. >>>> >>>> - 不管怎样,我们将在GPL下为任何人提供优良的完整的MySQL server,您可以下 >>>> 载和使用,这是我们完全的承诺。如果我们背离了这个承诺,我们的用户可能会弃 我们而去,使用其它的开源数据库,或是将产生一个我们自己产品的复制品 >>>> (fork)。这是开源的威力。 >>>> >>>> Make sense? >>>> - 解释清楚了吗? >>>> >>>> >>>> Marten >>>> previously CEO of MySQL, now SVP at Sun >>>> - MySQL前CEO,现Sun SVP >>>> >>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >>>> >>>> >>>> Alex Peng 写道: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> 请耐心看完 >>>>> http://developers.slashdot.org/developers/08/04/16/2337224.shtml >>>>> >>>>> 找其中 Marten Mikos 的部分,不幸的是没有被翻译成中文。:( >>>>> 诸位如果认可他的解释,请广为告知。 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Alex Peng 写道: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> 最原始的link在这里,包括有martin的解释。 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> http://jcole.us/blog/archives/2008/04/14/just-announced-mysql-to-launch-new-features-only-in-mysql-enterprise/ >>>> >>>> >>>>>> 让我再去打探一番。 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Zoom.Quiet 写道: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> 正是担心这方面的事儿哪... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 2008/4/17 Willow <Chengyin.Liu at gmail.com>: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Sent to you by Willow via Google Reader: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Sun开始关闭MySQL部分功能的源代码 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://developers.solidot.org/article.pl?sid=08/04/17/0759217&from;=rss >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> via Solidot by matrix on 4/17/08 >>>>>>>> 来自MySQL用户大会的消息,Sun宣布、MySQL前CEO Marten >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> Mickos证实,太阳微系统公司将封闭部分MySQL的代码。Sun开始关闭MySQL备份方案的源代码,许多高级功能的代码也将不再开放。当Oracle收购了MySQL使用的数据引擎公司Innodb后,它采用了GPL许可发布,这是否意味着MySQL可能去除它,以引入这些的新特性?Sun在真正的开源方面有着糟糕的历史。 >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>> Things you can do from here: >>>>>>>> Subscribe to Solidot using Google Reader >>>>>>>> Get started using Google Reader to easily keep up with all your >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> favorite >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>> sites >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ >>>>>>>> "Copy&Paste; Exchange" group. >>>>>>>> http://groups-beta.google.com/group/mindex?hl=zh-CN >>>>>>>> -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> zeuux-universe mailing list >>>>>> zeuux-universe at zeuux.org >>>>>> http://www.zeuux.org/mailman/listinfo/zeuux-universe >>>>>> >>>>>> ZEUUX Project - Free Software, Free Society! >>>>>> http://www.zeuux.org >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> zeuux-universe mailing list >>>>> zeuux-universe at zeuux.org >>>>> http://www.zeuux.org/mailman/listinfo/zeuux-universe >>>>> >>>>> ZEUUX Project - Free Software, Free Society! >>>>> http://www.zeuux.org >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> zeuux-universe mailing list >> zeuux-universe at zeuux.org >> http://www.zeuux.org/mailman/listinfo/zeuux-universe >> >> ZEUUX Project - Free Software, Free Society! >> http://www.zeuux.org > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > zeuux-universe mailing list > zeuux-universe at zeuux.org > http://www.zeuux.org/mailman/listinfo/zeuux-universe > > ZEUUX Project - Free Software, Free Society! > http://www.zeuux.org >
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