Jacob Fan,您好！

	双击url倒没问题

======= 2004-03-12 12:03:29 您在来信中写道：=======

>也许是你的windows有问题。你可以双击一个url的快捷方式打开一个网站么？
>
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: zhao [mailto:bear_sh at eastday.com]
>Sent: 2004年3月12日 11:53
>To: python-chinese
>Subject: [python-chinese] : webbrowser
>
>
>[python-chinese], 各位好！
>
>运行错误:
>        import webbrowser
>        webbrowser.open_new("http://www.sina.com")
>
>错误信息：
>
>Traceback (most recent call last):
>  File "test.py", line 2, in ?
>    webbrowser.open_new("http://www.sina.com")
>  File "d:\python23\lib\webbrowser.py", line 46, in open_new
>    get().open(url, 1)
>  File "d:\python23\lib\webbrowser.py", line 250, in open
>    os.startfile(url)
>WindowsError: [Errno 3] : 'http://www.sina.com'
>
>
>似乎是os.startfile不能正常的调用url，webbrowser.py有问题？？
>
>　　　　　　　　致
>礼！
>
>                               
>　　　　　　　　zhao
>　　　　　　　　bear_sh at eastday.com
>　　　　　　　　　　2004-03-12 
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　　　　　　　　bear_sh at eastday.com
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>JF> -------
>JF> Explicit is better than implicit ...
>JF> _______________________________________________
>JF> python-chinese list
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>
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>From: "Zoom.Quiet" <zoomq at infopro.cn>
>Reply-To: "Zoom.Quiet" <zoomq at itcase.com>, zoomq at infopro.cn,
,python-chinese at lists.python.cn
>To: python-chinese at lists.python.cn
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>Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2004 12:16:23 +0800
>
>Hello Jacob,
>
>http://py.vaults.ca/apyllo.py?a=3Dtree
>
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>=3D=3D=3D [ 11:57 ; 04-03-12 ] you wrote:
>
>
>JF> http://www.uselesspython.com/
>JF> -------
>JF> Explicit is better than implicit ...=20
>JF> _______________________________________________
>JF> python-chinese list
>JF> python-chinese at lists.python.cn=20
>JF> http://python.cn/mailman/listinfo/python-chinese
>
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>--
>Best regards,
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> >
> >JF> http://www.uselesspython.com/
> >JF> -------
> >JF> Explicit is better than implicit ...
> >JF> _______________________________________________
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> >JF> http://python.cn/mailman/listinfo/python-chinese
> >
> >=== === === === === === === === === ===
> >
> >--
> >Best regards,
> >  Zoom.Quiet
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> >  /=======================================\
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各位觉得在python.cn上架设一个Wiki来分享知识，讨论问题，并作为将python-chinese邮件组的讨论内容加以整理的一个平台如何？如果要做的话，我会采用ZWiki。

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有WiKi当然好，但这样的话，那大家就分散了，我感觉还是只用一种方式（邮件组或
WiKi），让所有人都聚到一处。而且用WiKi要用户会它的语法，现在这不是每个人都会
的，有一定困难。所以我觉得只用mail-list就够了，当然，如果建了WiKi，那也多多
益善，:-)。


>From: "Jacob Fan" <jacob at exoweb.net>
>Reply-To: python-chinese at lists.python.cn
>To: "Chinese Python List" <python-chinese at lists.python.cn>
>Subject: [python-chinese] 关于Wiki
>Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2004 14:40:49 +0800
>
>各位觉得在python.cn上架设一个Wiki来分享知识，讨论问题，并作为将
python-chinese邮件组的讨论内容加以整理的一个平台如何？如果要做的话，我会采用
ZWiki。
>
>-------
>Explicit is better than implicit ...
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Hello Jacob,

好想法！
不过推荐 MoinMoin
更加成熟，中文支持也好！
ZWiki慢！而且语法古怪！

在下刚刚完成中文化翻译: 
http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/ChineseTranslation 

国内的MoinMoin 比较有内容的: 

中蟒大杂院 
http://www.chinesepython.org/cgi_bin/moingb.cgi/_d6_d0_f2_fe_b4_f3_d4_d3_d4_ba 

UIBE WikiWeb 
http://w2.uibe.edu.cn/moinzh/WikiWikiWeb_e4_b8_ad_e6_96_87_e4_bb_8b_e7_bb_8d 


感觉还是Linux 下面发布Moin 方便! 

正在管理公司内部的Moin 作为知识管理文档中心! 

=== [ 14:40 ; 04-03-12 ] you wrote:

JF> 各位觉得在python.cn上架设一个Wiki来分享知识，讨论问题，并作为将python-chinese邮件组的讨论内容加以整理的一个平台如何？如果要做的话，我会采用ZWiki。

JF> -------
JF> Explicit is better than implicit ... 
JF> _______________________________________________
JF> python-chinese list
JF> python-chinese at lists.python.cn
JF> http://python.cn/mailman/listinfo/python-chinese

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好地方,谢谢
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Hello Who,

知识管理的思路问题！
以下有比较深入的思考:
http://www.linuxforum.net/forum/showflat.php?Cat=&Board;=python&Number;=474156&page;=0&view;=collapsed&sb;=5&o;=93&fpart;=
等等

Mailist 方便大家的讨论，而且不受IE的影响，
但是讨论的成果，以Wiki 的文章方式组织，更加容易管理和学习！

而且现在发现以 txt2tags 为中心可以快速的转换各种正式文档！
http://www.dohao.org/blog/000022.html#more
再结合 Doxygen ,

可以保障大家的经验，可以也最小的操作，获得最大量的安全传播！


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我所说的知识管理功能不够的意思是： 

比如如果是一本书，那么就有树状结构（篇、章、节、小节），还有顺序结构（有先后顺序的第一节、第二节、第三节，各个章节的前后顺序是确定的）。而在wiki系统中，是一个平面结构（我知道zwiki有层次结构，具体不清楚，但应该实现不彻底，比如没有顺序结构）。一个wiki页没有前、后、上的属性，（手工添加的链接不算。）而如果有了这些属性，wiki的浏览操作会方便很多。比如blog也没有书那样的完善的结构，forum也没有这样的整理功能。可能有czug那样的操作，先在forum讨论，比较成熟后放到blog上，规模大了，放到wiki上，成熟了放到知识库中。而我的想法是，不管什么信息类型（blog、wiki、forum等）都具有”可管理性“，都有一些统一的操作，比如版本、评级、评价、结构、作者、分类、时间。一个信息可以有多种表现形式，同时存在于各种容器中（blog、wiki....），而不是各有一个复制品在各个容器中，造成信息的分裂，手工的在各个容器收集反馈。信息越具有可管理性，就越能发挥作用，而不至于造成信息的浪费。如果能够通过各个途径、依照各种线索都能够发现同一个信息，将同一个信息的各种反馈和整理和更改都在一处发现，那么信息能够发挥更大作用。 

另外，网站的“开放互连”能力，比如，能够发现一个wiki字是否在其它wiki网站上已经出现了。比如，一个人能够用同一个网站的认证在多个不同的网站上发表信息，而且在一处能够发现作者在不同网站上发表的所有信息。（而不必依赖不可靠的网站搜索功能） 

这种知识管理能力其实也就是“语义web”的概念，只是我的设想更具体。要实现我说的知识管理功能，也要建立在xml基础上，就是要求网站的功能都具有xml界面，并且数据库能够相互链接。（就像多个关系数据库的合并。） 

这些想法只能通过软件的实现完善、提纯。知识管理的想法在我网站上提到的“记事本”项目也有所表述。 

“可管理性”和“开放互连”可能已经在某些软件中有所体现了，但我认为目前的发展水平远远不能满足要求。 

象天网的燕储把多个分散的ftp网站互连起来，blog心得集的blog搜索功能，都是一种“开放互连”的尝试。我的bookmark缓存的想法也是一种互连的企图。ldap和passport也是一种互连的实现。 

其实，对知识管理的说明用“用户故事”的方式来说明是最明白的，只是目前思路比较混乱，只能在理论上大概说一下。 

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=== [ 14:54 ; 04-03-12 ] you wrote:

WB> 有WiKi当然好，但这样的话，那大家就分散了，我感觉还是只用一种方式（邮件组或
WB> WiKi），让所有人都聚到一处。而且用WiKi要用户会它的语法，现在这不是每个人都会
WB> 的，有一定困难。所以我觉得只用mail-list就够了，当然，如果建了WiKi，那也多多
WB> 益善，:-)。


>>From: "Jacob Fan" <jacob at exoweb.net>
>>Reply-To: python-chinese at lists.python.cn
>>To: "Chinese Python List" <python-chinese at lists.python.cn>
>>Subject: [python-chinese] 关于Wiki
>>Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2004 14:40:49 +0800
>>
>>各位觉得在python.cn上架设一个Wiki来分享知识，讨论问题，并作为将
WB> python-chinese邮件组的讨论内容加以整理的一个平台如何？如果要做的话，我会采用
WB> ZWiki。
>>
>>-------
>>Explicit is better than implicit ...
>>_______________________________________________
>>python-chinese list
>>python-chinese at lists.python.cn
>>http://python.cn/mailman/listinfo/python-chinese

WB> _________________________________________________________________
WB> 免费下载 MSN Explorer:   http://explorer.msn.com/lccn/  

WB> _______________________________________________
WB> python-chinese list
WB> python-chinese at lists.python.cn
WB> http://python.cn/mailman/listinfo/python-chinese

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