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标题:[python-chinese] Guys , simple is better

2004年08月10日 星期二 18:25

Gary Wu xiawu at cisco.com
Tue Aug 10 18:25:27 HKT 2004

The Zen of Python=20
	-- by Tim Peters

Beautiful is better than ugly.
Explicit is better than implicit.
Simple is better than complex.
Complex is better than complicated. Flat is better than nested.
Sparse is better than dense.
Readability counts.
Special cases aren't special enough to break the rules.
Although practicality beats purity.
Errors should never pass silently.
Unless explicitly silenced.
In the face of ambiguity, refuse the temptation to guess.
There should be one-- and preferably only one --obvious way to do it.
Although that way may not be obvious at first unless you're Dutch.
Now is better than never.
Although never is often better than *right* now.
If the implementation is hard to explain, it's a bad idea.
If the implementation is easy to explain, it may be a good idea.
Namespaces are one honking great idea -- let's do more of those!=20



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   2. Re: Python????????????????? (gentoo.cn)


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Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2004 11:55:53 +0800
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2004 11:58:12 +0800
From: "gentoo.cn" <gentoo.cn at 126.com>
Subject: Re: [python-chinese] Python?????????????????
To: python-chinese at lists.python.cn
Message-ID: <411847D4.2080203 at 126.com>
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Jacob Fan wrote:

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>----- Original Message -----=20
>From: "limodou" <chatme at 263.net>
>To: <python-chinese at lists.python.cn>
>Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2004 11:38 AM
>Subject: Re: [python-chinese] =
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>>>=A1=A1=A1=A1=A1=A1=A1=A1=A1=A1=A1=A1=A1=A1=A1=A1guochen at 1218.com.cn
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>>=A1=A1=A1=A1=A1=A1=A1=A1=A1=A1=A1=A1=A1=A1=A1=A1limodou
>>=A1=A1=A1=A1=A1=A1=A1=A1=A1=A1=A1=A1=A1=A1=A1=A1chatme at 263.net
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2004年08月10日 星期二 18:48

gentoo.cn gentoo.cn at 126.com
Tue Aug 10 18:48:01 HKT 2004

But we are liveing in a real world,
such as this mailling list.
We have X-Mailer with: Microsoft Outlook/Outlook Express, 
Mozilla/firefox thunderbird, foxmail, mutt...
with encoding/charset, UTF-8, gb2312, gb18030, hz, BASE64, 
quoted-printable......
......
OMG, I can't read some message because the mass of all kind of encoding.
And I can't clearly organizational the message threads.

Which pill will U take?
The red one or the blue one?

终于这个世界变得简单了(hope everybody can read those words without 
??????? or ===)


Gary Wu wrote:

>The Zen of Python 
>	-- by Tim Peters
>
>Beautiful is better than ugly.
>Explicit is better than implicit.
>Simple is better than complex.
>Complex is better than complicated. Flat is better than nested.
>Sparse is better than dense.
>Readability counts.
>Special cases aren't special enough to break the rules.
>Although practicality beats purity.
>Errors should never pass silently.
>Unless explicitly silenced.
>In the face of ambiguity, refuse the temptation to guess.
>There should be one-- and preferably only one --obvious way to do it.
>Although that way may not be obvious at first unless you're Dutch.
>Now is better than never.
>Although never is often better than *right* now.
>If the implementation is hard to explain, it's a bad idea.
>If the implementation is easy to explain, it may be a good idea.
>Namespaces are one honking great idea -- let's do more of those! 
>
>
>
>Today's Topics:
>
>   1.
> 
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>      (info at xichen.com)
>   2. Re: Python????????????????? (gentoo.cn)
>
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>Message: 1
>Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2004 11:55:53 +0800
>From: "info at xichen.com" <info at xichen.com>
>Subject:
>	
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>	
>To: "python-chinese at lists.python.cn" <python-chinese at lists.python.cn>
>Message-ID:
>	<mailman.0.1092110405.24051.python-chinese at lists.python.cn>
>Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="gb2312"
>
>Deadman,您好!
>
>	大学教材里面有本《网络基本原理》,里面有讲述。
>    另外网上有大量的资料。建议你先弄清楚tcp和udp的区别。
>
>======= 2004-08-09 19:47:29 您在来信中写道:=======
>
>  
>
>>最近出現一些UDP BT Tracker,我正想辦法支持他,但我對UDP不熟悉
>>
>>--
>>The Deadman Walking......
>>_______________________________________________
>>python-chinese list
>>python-chinese at lists.python.cn
>>http://python.cn/mailman/listinfo/python-chinese
>>
>>    
>>
>
>= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
>			
>
>        致
>礼!
> 
>				 
>        info
>        info at xichen.com
>          2004-08-10
>
>
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>Message: 2
>Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2004 11:58:12 +0800
>From: "gentoo.cn" <gentoo.cn at 126.com>
>Subject: Re: [python-chinese] Python?????????????????
>To: python-chinese at lists.python.cn
>Message-ID: <411847D4.2080203 at 126.com>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=GB2312
>
>C++不用指针没法实现树吗?
>同理,Python中使用C++中不用指针的树的算法不就可以了吗
>提示:使用数组的树
>
>Jacob Fan wrote:
>
>  
>
>>实现树和链表不需要指针,只要引用就可以了.所谓Python,Java一类的语言中没有指针
>>    
>>
>是指你不能得到一个数据的确切的地址,不能做指针运算等等. 不是说你不能引用另外
>一个对象.
>  
>
>>class LinkedListNode:
>>   def __init__(self, nextNode):
>>       self.nextNode = nextNode
>>
>>----- Original Message ----- 
>>From: "limodou" <chatme at 263.net>
>>To: <python-chinese at lists.python.cn>
>>Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2004 11:38 AM
>>Subject: Re: [python-chinese] Python没有指针,怎么实现树和链表的结构?
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>>    
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>>>guochen,您好!
>>>
>>>使用对象啊。对象可以是任意的东西啊。
>>>
>>>a = [1,2,[3,4,[5,6]]]
>>>
>>>这样不就和链表一样吗?树也可以这样表示啊。
>>>
>>>======= 2004-08-10 11:15:39 您在来信中写道:=======
>>>
>>>   
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>>>python-chinese,您好!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>        致
>>>>礼!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>        guochen
>>>>        guochen at 1218.com.cn
>>>>          2004-08-10
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>_______________________________________________
>>>>python-chinese list
>>>>python-chinese at lists.python.cn
>>>>http://python.cn/mailman/listinfo/python-chinese
>>>>     
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
>>>
>>>
>>>        致
>>>礼!
>>>
>>>
>>>        limodou
>>>        chatme at 263.net
>>>          2004-08-10
>>>
>>>
>>>   
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>>>      
>>>
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>> 
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>>>      
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2004年08月10日 星期二 19:20

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2004年08月10日 星期二 19:39

hoxide hoxide_dirac at yahoo.com.cn
Tue Aug 10 19:39:51 HKT 2004

	哪里有javascript的语言参考?我找了个中文版的chm很不全. 
	今天一天都在看嵌入网页的html编辑器的程序,javascript的,快要崩溃了.....
 


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