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标题:[python-chinese] re: python-chinese Digest, Vol 8, Issue 136

2004年08月23日 星期一 17:17

Gary Wu xiawu at cisco.com
Mon Aug 23 17:17:46 HKT 2004

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2004年08月23日 星期一 17:25

hoxide hoxide_dirac at yahoo.com.cn
Mon Aug 23 17:25:03 HKT 2004

Zoom.Quiet,您好!

	好办法

======= 2004-08-23 15:50:18 您在来信中写道:=======

>Hollo GreyRoar:
>
>  咦咦咦??!? Python 总是让人惊奇哪!
>在下仅仅是使用一个单声道的耳机Mic 就可以反应出声源的位置变化!
>强!
>p2p 的话,可以进行群聊串联?每4个人一组,相互加入另外一组,不就可以无限制的扩展下去??
>
>
>
>/******** [2004-08-23]15:46:29 ; GreyRoar wrote:
>
>GreyRoar> Zoom.Quiet,您好!
>
>GreyRoar> 	skype:一个p2p的netphone软件,效果不错,足以让我在那次转播中清楚地感受到
>GreyRoar> ZoomQ你在话筒前位置的变化,呵呵。不过,它群聊一次只支持5个人,美中不足。
>
>GreyRoar> ======= 2004-08-23 14:51:00 您在来信中写道:=======
>
>>>Hollo GreyRoar:
>>>
>>>  咦咦咦??已经开始转播了?!?!
>>>skype 专用软件??
>>>
>>>唉呀呀,这种无奈的经验也应该总结起来哪!
>>>在你的Wiki 页面中描述一下子吧!
>>>
>>>人民的智慧是无限的!
>>>
>>>
>>>/******** [2004-08-23]14:50:53 ; GreyRoar wrote:
>>>
>>>GreyRoar> Zoom.Quiet,您好!
>>>
>>>GreyRoar>
>>>	上次UC坏了,在聊天室里讨论时,我倒是用skype在hoxide那听的“转播”
>>>
>>>GreyRoar> ======= 2004-08-23 12:34:00 您在来信中写道:=======
>>>
>>>>>Hollo GreyRoar:
>>>>>
>>>>>  “总参”?? 嗬嗬嗬!是狗头军师吧??....
>>>>>
>>>>>也对! 凡是使用"凡是"来规定的,都不是实事求是的好规则是也乎?
>>>>>
>>>>>列表是应该自由发言的,但是UC群有加入上限,是个有限资源,要最好的发挥作用只能进行限定....是也乎是也乎,
>>>>>
>>>>>不过,当前可以进行人工扩展的??谁启动 Python 开源软件组2
>>>>>,会课时,人工转播主UC群的讨论??嗬嗬嗬....
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>/******** [2004-08-23]12:28:24 ; GreyRoar wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>GreyRoar> Zoom.Quiet,您好!
>>>>>
>>>>>GreyRoar> 		呵呵,用HD的话说,天成是“总参”。
>>>>>GreyRoar>
>>>>>		我只知道这个maillist是python.cn的,这里的成员不一定都是QQ群"python讨论组"里
>>>>>GreyRoar>
>>>>>	的成员,所以要求这里的人们“都要”怎样怎样,并不合适。至于群里如何安排,那最终都
>>>>>GreyRoar>
>>>>>	是看群的建立者的想法。而开源社区那边,开源社区也要踢人吗?不是吧,呵呵。
>>>>>GreyRoar> 	“压迫他们,他们就会反抗。给他们选择,他们就会接受”
>>>>>GreyRoar>     “这是个选择的问题”
>>>>>	
>>>>>
>>>>>GreyRoar> ======= 2004-08-23 11:45:00 您在来信中写道:=======
>>>>>
>>>>>>>Hollo dreamingk(天成):
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>咦咦咦??天成是管理员哪!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>嗯嗯!同时还有 UC 组,QQ组,等等,也都建议进行如此认证?
>>>>>>>要求真实的开发者来参与是也乎??
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>我们不是聊天社区,是开源软件社区是也乎,不玩“网络中就是条狗也没有人知道”的游戏………………
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>是也乎是也乎………………
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>/******** [2004-08-23]11:43:21 ; dreamingk(天成) wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>dreamingk(天成)> Pythoner,您好!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>dreamingk(天成)> 	2个凡是
>>>>>>>dreamingk(天成)> 1、凡是在本群 社区
>>>>>>>dreamingk(天成)>
>>>>>>>或者mailing中讨论或者参与本社区的建设以及对此有兴趣的朋友都要去http://wiki.woodpecker.org.cn/moin.cgi/woodpecker_2dhacker
>>>>>>>dreamingk(天成)> 做个资料登记(为了让大家互相了解一些)
>>>>>>>dreamingk(天成)> 2、凡是在本群 社区
>>>>>>>dreamingk(天成)>
>>>>>>>或者mailing中讨论或者参与本社区的建设以及对此有兴趣的朋友最好都去http://wiki.woodpecker.org.cn/moin.cgi/PyUSS_2fPyUSScontribute
>>>>>>>dreamingk(天成)> 添加自己的入口,做为自己的个人wiki 可以记录心情
>>>>>>>dreamingk(天成)> 学习心得 日记 文章
>>>>>>>dreamingk(天成)>
>>>>>>>评论等等。还可以做开发日志,让大家有更多了解(资源共享嘛)以后可以考虑用blog代替!
>>>>>>>dreamingk(天成)> 对于在上面两个连接都没有留名的朋友
>>>>>>>dreamingk(天成)> 将t出群(因为人满为患
>>>>>>>dreamingk(天成)>
>>>>>>>有好多朋友在里面都不说话,失去了讨论的意义,而别人又加入不了!)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>dreamingk(天成)>         致
>>>>>>>dreamingk(天成)> 礼!
>>>>>>> 				
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>dreamingk(天成)>         dreamingk(天成)
>>>>>>>dreamingk(天成)>         dreamingker at 163.com
>>>>>>>dreamingk(天成)>           2004-08-23
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>********************************************/
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2004年08月23日 星期一 17:27

Jacob Fan jacob at exoweb.net
Mon Aug 23 17:27:02 HKT 2004

到irc.freenode.net上开一个就可以了.很简单.
Gary Wu wrote:

>UC和QQ群的功能比较弱啊。
>为什么没有人考虑开一个IRC频道呢?没有所谓人数限制,也不需要缴费。
>用公众的IRC服务器或者自己开一个都不难。挺适合兴趣小组这种形式。
>IRC国外用的很多,国内的IRC服务器虽然没以前火,但是也还有不少。
>
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2004年08月23日 星期一 17:30

Zoom.Quiet zoomq at infopro.cn
Mon Aug 23 17:30:45 HKT 2004

Hollo Jacob:

  呜乎哀哉!!!不会用哪!
mirc 等等软件都安装过!可是进入不了;
而且没有语音广播的功能吧???


/******** [2004-08-23]17:30:00 ; Jacob wrote:

Jacob Fan> 到irc.freenode.net上开一个就可以了.很简单.
Jacob Fan> Gary Wu wrote:

>>UC和QQ群的功能比较弱啊。
>>为什么没有人考虑开一个IRC频道呢?没有所谓人数限制,也不需要缴费。
>>用公众的IRC服务器或者自己开一个都不难。挺适合兴趣小组这种形式。
>>IRC国外用的很多,国内的IRC服务器虽然没以前火,但是也还有不少。
>>
>>  
>>

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2004年08月23日 星期一 17:31

hoxide hoxide_dirac at yahoo.com.cn
Mon Aug 23 17:31:25 HKT 2004

dreamingk(天成),您好!

	今天同学聚会去了, 现在才回, qq群的管理现在的确很不到位. 我虽然是群的创建者, 但很多事其实都是天成在做, 感谢天成~~~~
qq是应该清理一下了, 而确定名单并不是件容易的事, 天成的提议不错, 在签名和行者堂露脸的人我绝对不会踢. 具体名单我会在群公告中公布一段时间,征求大家意见,然后再正式删除. 不知大家是否有什么好的建议.

======= 2004-08-23 14:08:47 您在来信中写道:=======

>Zoom.Quiet,您好!
>
>	曲解我的意思了。我并不是想要限制在mailing 的发言,并且我也根本没那个权利。我的说法仅仅是对qq群和uc群来说的。因为qq群和uc群有人数限制,现在已经满了,别的朋友想加加不近来,而有些超级潜水员(从加进群就没说过“一”句话的)有不少。所以希望做一下清理。给更多的朋友提供些机会。mailing里又没有限制,只要是和我们讨论主题相关的,甚至是只要是有益的,都欢迎讨论了。
>    还有希望大家把在wiki上的个人入口建立起来的目的是促进信息资料共享。就象我们当初计划的那样,如果以后可以加入些功能,例如查询、索引等功能的话,我们在wiki上查找资料不是更方便,也省得到处连接,还可以发挥我们的最大效率!
>    至于我们的个人资料那部分那是签名,不是记录在案(用来网上追逃)。希望大家可以了解别人研究和学习的方向,以及个人志趣等等。这样对有针对性的讨论和交流是不是更有益处呢?
>    所以希望朋友们尽量把这两部分的资料自己都加进来。希望我们的行者堂和签名处可以看到更多的朋友!
>    签名处:http://wiki.woodpecker.org.cn/moin.cgi/woodpecker_2dhacker
>    个人wiki入口(行者堂):http://wiki.woodpecker.org.cn/moin.cgi/PyUSS_2fPyUSScontribute
>
>======= 2004-08-23 12:34:28 您在来信中写道:=======
>
>>Hollo GreyRoar:
>>
>>  “总参”?? 嗬嗬嗬!是狗头军师吧??....
>>
>>也对! 凡是使用"凡是"来规定的,都不是实事求是的好规则是也乎?
>>
>>列表是应该自由发言的,但是UC群有加入上限,是个有限资源,要最好的发挥作用只能进行限定....是也乎是也乎,
>>
>>不过,当前可以进行人工扩展的??谁启动 Python 开源软件组2
>>,会课时,人工转播主UC群的讨论??嗬嗬嗬....
>>
>>
>>
>>/******** [2004-08-23]12:28:24 ; GreyRoar wrote:
>>
>>GreyRoar> Zoom.Quiet,您好!
>>
>>GreyRoar> 		呵呵,用HD的话说,天成是“总参”。
>>GreyRoar> 		我只知道这个maillist是python.cn的,这里的成员不一定都是QQ群"python讨论组"里
>>GreyRoar> 	的成员,所以要求这里的人们“都要”怎样怎样,并不合适。至于群里如何安排,那最终都
>>GreyRoar> 	是看群的建立者的想法。而开源社区那边,开源社区也要踢人吗?不是吧,呵呵。
>>GreyRoar> 	“压迫他们,他们就会反抗。给他们选择,他们就会接受”
>>GreyRoar>     “这是个选择的问题”
>>	
>>
>>GreyRoar> ======= 2004-08-23 11:45:00 您在来信中写道:=======
>>
>>>>Hollo dreamingk(天成):
>>>>
>>>>咦咦咦??天成是管理员哪!
>>>>
>>>>嗯嗯!同时还有 UC 组,QQ组,等等,也都建议进行如此认证?
>>>>要求真实的开发者来参与是也乎??
>>>>
>>>>我们不是聊天社区,是开源软件社区是也乎,不玩“网络中就是条狗也没有人知道”的游戏………………
>>>>
>>>>是也乎是也乎………………
>>>>
>>>>/******** [2004-08-23]11:43:21 ; dreamingk(天成) wrote:
>>>>
>>>>dreamingk(天成)> Pythoner,您好!
>>>>
>>>>dreamingk(天成)> 	2个凡是
>>>>dreamingk(天成)> 1、凡是在本群 社区
>>>>dreamingk(天成)>
>>>>或者mailing中讨论或者参与本社区的建设以及对此有兴趣的朋友都要去http://wiki.woodpecker.org.cn/moin.cgi/woodpecker_2dhacker
>>>>dreamingk(天成)> 做个资料登记(为了让大家互相了解一些)
>>>>dreamingk(天成)> 2、凡是在本群 社区
>>>>dreamingk(天成)>
>>>>或者mailing中讨论或者参与本社区的建设以及对此有兴趣的朋友最好都去http://wiki.woodpecker.org.cn/moin.cgi/PyUSS_2fPyUSScontribute
>>>>dreamingk(天成)> 添加自己的入口,做为自己的个人wiki 可以记录心情
>>>>dreamingk(天成)> 学习心得 日记 文章
>>>>dreamingk(天成)>
>>>>评论等等。还可以做开发日志,让大家有更多了解(资源共享嘛)以后可以考虑用blog代替!
>>>>dreamingk(天成)> 对于在上面两个连接都没有留名的朋友
>>>>dreamingk(天成)> 将t出群(因为人满为患
>>>>dreamingk(天成)>
>>>>有好多朋友在里面都不说话,失去了讨论的意义,而别人又加入不了!)
>>>>
>>>>dreamingk(天成)>         致
>>>>dreamingk(天成)> 礼!
>>>> 				
>>>>
>>>>dreamingk(天成)>         dreamingk(天成)
>>>>dreamingk(天成)>         dreamingker at 163.com
>>>>dreamingk(天成)>           2004-08-23
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>
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>>>>
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>>GreyRoar> = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
>>			
>>
>>GreyRoar>         致
>>GreyRoar> 礼!
>>
>>				
>>GreyRoar>         GreyRoar
>>GreyRoar>         GreyRoar at tom.com
>>GreyRoar>           2004-08-23
>>
>>
>>
>>
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2004年08月23日 星期一 18:13

Jacob Fan jacob at exoweb.net
Mon Aug 23 18:13:25 HKT 2004

用gaim比较方便,可以同时上IRC, msn, icq, jabber,yahoo!等.Linux和Windows下
都可以用.
Zoom.Quiet wrote:

>Hollo Jacob:
>
>  呜乎哀哉!!!不会用哪!
>mirc 等等软件都安装过!可是进入不了;
>而且没有语音广播的功能吧???
>
>
>/******** [2004-08-23]17:30:00 ; Jacob wrote:
>
>Jacob Fan> 到irc.freenode.net上开一个就可以了.很简单.
>Jacob Fan> Gary Wu wrote:
>
>  
>
>>>UC和QQ群的功能比较弱啊。
>>>为什么没有人考虑开一个IRC频道呢?没有所谓人数限制,也不需要缴费。
>>>用公众的IRC服务器或者自己开一个都不难。挺适合兴趣小组这种形式。
>>>IRC国外用的很多,国内的IRC服务器虽然没以前火,但是也还有不少。
>>>
>>> 
>>>
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2004年08月23日 星期一 18:32

hoxide hoxide_dirac at yahoo.com.cn
Mon Aug 23 18:32:13 HKT 2004

Jacob Fan,您好!

	试着在上面开了个python.cn频道

======= 2004-08-23 17:27:02 您在来信中写道:=======

>到irc.freenode.net上开一个就可以了.很简单.
>Gary Wu wrote:
>
>>UC和QQ群的功能比较弱啊。
>>为什么没有人考虑开一个IRC频道呢?没有所谓人数限制,也不需要缴费。
>>用公众的IRC服务器或者自己开一个都不难。挺适合兴趣小组这种形式。
>>IRC国外用的很多,国内的IRC服务器虽然没以前火,但是也还有不少。
>>
>>  
>>
>
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2004年08月24日 星期二 09:20

Xie Yanbo idkey at 163.com
Tue Aug 24 09:20:30 HKT 2004

On 2004-08-23 17:17:1093252666 +0800, Gary Wu wrote:
> UC和QQ群的功能比较弱啊。
> 为什么没有人考虑开一个IRC频道呢?没有所谓人数限制,也不需要缴费。
> 用公众的IRC服务器或者自己开一个都不难。挺适合兴趣小组这种形式。
> IRC国外用的很多,国内的IRC服务器虽然没以前火,但是也还有不少。

同意。我也推荐过用 irc,但似乎没人感兴趣。我们有自己的 FreeBSD
服务器,在上面架服务应该很容易。



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2004年08月24日 星期二 09:47

Zoom.Quiet zoomq at infopro.cn
Tue Aug 24 09:47:25 HKT 2004

Hollo Xie:

  理解!
不过 irc 可以通过HTTP 代理连接到服务中心??

我使用 mIRC 不知道怎么设置……………………汗!


/******** [2004-08-24]09:46:40 ; Xie wrote:

Xie Yanbo> On 2004-08-23 17:17:1093252666 +0800, Gary Wu wrote:
>> UC和QQ群的功能比较弱啊。
>> 为什么没有人考虑开一个IRC频道呢?没有所谓人数限制,也不需要缴费。
>> 用公众的IRC服务器或者自己开一个都不难。挺适合兴趣小组这种形式。
>> IRC国外用的很多,国内的IRC服务器虽然没以前火,但是也还有不少。

Xie Yanbo> 同意。我也推荐过用
Xie Yanbo> irc,但似乎没人感兴趣。我们有自己的 FreeBSD
Xie Yanbo> 服务器,在上面架服务应该很容易。

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