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标题：Re: [python-chinese] 调查：有多少人在使用NewEdit
2004年08月19日 星期四 14:01
wlt at bdjpumps.com wlt at bdjpumps.com
Thu Aug 19 14:01:59 HKT 2004
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2004年08月19日 星期四 14:08
limodou chatme at 263.net
Thu Aug 19 14:08:53 HKT 2004
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wlt,您好！ NewEdit和它的启动Python代码的方式不一样，做到这一点并不容易。除非它做为一个模块导入。我没有qq，msn,uc平时不用，因为很少有人和我联系。邮件用得最多。呵呵。 ======= 2004-08-19 14:01:59 您在来信中写道：======= >总加print多麻烦，python可以直接取道a得值，只要对象可以被全局中的变量引用。其实这个功能我感觉应该可以实现吧，因为python本身有这个功能，运行完一个脚本后直接进入交互环境，大概是-i之类把。我的msn:wlt008 at hotmail.com qq:1935853，你可以加我。我发mail只能在线发，麻烦得要命：（ > >limodou wrote: > >>wlt,您好！ >> >> 那为什么不在那个脚本中增加一个输出，如print之类的语句呢？ >> 你的意思是说，比如 ： >> >> a = 10 >> >> 在pythonwin中运行后，可以得到a的值为10吗？ >> >>======= 2004-08-19 13:53:53 您在来信中写道：======= >> >>>hehe,只是我的一个想法而已，因为我常用activepython自带的pythonwin写脚本，觉得这个功能不错 :-) >>> >>>limodou wrote: >>> >>>>wlt,您好！ >>>> 还是不太懂。在一个程序中是global的，但它也只是那个程序的全局变量。运行结束自然就释放了。NewEdit运行程序使用的是启动另一个进程，无法得知另一个进程的信息。更何况这些信息在程序运行完也就释放了。 >>>> >>>> 我看你用的一些工作有些都是商业版的，象BlackAddr, visual python。 >>>> >>>> NewEdit 主要观注的是编程，调试功能只是运行。没有断点、单步什么的。因为它的定位是编辑器，不是一个集成环境(虽然不知道以后会不会作成一个集成环境)。而且它还可以用于其它语言的编辑，是一个通用的编辑器。 >>>> >>>> >>>>======= 2004-08-19 13:34:51 您在来信中写道：======= >>>> >>>>>就是说我在用pythonwin中F5运行完程序后可以直接在他的交互窗口察看global中的变量， >>>>>偶是新手，表述不清：） >>>>> >>>>>这两天测试了几个其他的ide,wingide 1.10是tk风格，太难看了，activestate的komodo漂 >>>>>亮的不行，用mozilla framework做的，也是偶做perl时的最爱，不过最新版3.0在系统语言 >>>>>是cp936(就是gbk)编码下根本不能用，中文英文xp我都试过， 2.5版还可以，可以用，虽然 >>>>>不能输入中文：） >>>>>Boa感觉比较怪，大概是用来做wx gui的吧，普通编程我看就不必了吧. BlackAddr看着不 >>>>>错，qt的，不过偶找不到破解，就没实际测。还有个spe(http://spe.pycs.net/weblog/)， >>>>>wx 的，比较新，不过介绍功能还不少，支持wxglade，还有个测试正则的工具，类似 >>>>>komodo。scite：被wx包裹进去了，没有类/函数列表，不爽：）Virual python，唯一一个 >>>>>在用'.'列属性时，属性和方法用不同图标表示出来的。不过用它要装vs2003：（除了这点 >>>>>感觉其他和komodo一样了。 >>>>> >>>>>// >>>>> >>>>>limodou wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>Wei Litao,您好！ >>>>>> >>>>>> 如果运行完程序后能像pythonwin切换到shell还能察看变量就好了 >>>>>> >>>>>> 这是什么意思呀，能不能再解释一下。 >>>>>> >>>>>>======= 2004-08-18 23:54:42 您在来信中写道：======= >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>Hello limodou, >>>>>>> >>>>>>>偶现在用它看代码，感觉还是满不错的，如果运行完程序后能像pythonwin切换到shell还能察看变量就好了：） >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Best regards, >>>>>>> >>>>>>>======= At 2004-08-18, 18:43:34 you wrote: ======= >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Zoom.Quiet,您好！ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 我会在2.5版出来后看能不能解决启动速度的问题。还有就是看能不能生成exe文件的问题。2.6版可能还会有很大的改动，这两个问题是2.6版的主攻方向。 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>======= 2004-08-18 18:02:03 您在来信中写道：======= >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Hollo limodou: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>支持！作为GUI 的代码库用也可以的！ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>就是启动速度实在是与VIM 有的一拼！ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>/******** [2004-08-18]18:01:26 ; limodou wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>limodou> python-chinese，您好！ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>limodou> >>>>>>>>>limodou> 有用NewEdit的打声招呼，让我也知道这东西有多大的价值好吧。好象大家对它没什么兴趣，也没什么希望啊。最近2.5版要出来了，增加了ftp远程打开保存文件功能，简单地项目管理功能，上下文敏感缩近，自动补齐(,[,{等功能(这个功能其实很小)。有兴趣地支持我呀。 >>>>>>>>>limodou> :P >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>limodou> 致 >>>>>>>>>limodou> 礼！ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>limodou> limodou >>>>>>>>>limodou> chatme at 263.net >>>>>>>>>limodou> 2004-08-18 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>********************************************/ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>-- >>>>>>>>>Free as in Freedom >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Zoom.Quiet >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>#=========================================# >>>>>>>>>]Time is unimportant, only life important![ >>>>>>>>>#=========================================# >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>sender is the Bat!2.12.00 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>python-chinese list >>>>>>>>>python-chinese at lists.python.cn >>>>>>>>>http://python.cn/mailman/listinfo/python-chinese >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 致 >>>>>>>>礼！ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> limodou >>>>>>>> chatme at 263.net >>>>>>>> 2004-08-18 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>python-chinese list >>>>>>>>python-chinese at lists.python.cn >>>>>>>>http://python.cn/mailman/listinfo/python-chinese >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Wei Litao >>>>>>>wlt at bdjpumps.com >>>>>>>2004-08-18 >>>>>>> >>>>>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>>>>python-chinese list >>>>>>>python-chinese at lists.python.cn >>>>>>>http://python.cn/mailman/listinfo/python-chinese >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> 致 >>>>>>礼！ >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> limodou >>>>>> chatme at 263.net >>>>>> 2004-08-19 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> >>>>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>>>python-chinese list >>>>>>python-chinese at lists.python.cn >>>>>>http://python.cn/mailman/listinfo/python-chinese >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>>python-chinese list >>>>>python-chinese at lists.python.cn >>>>>http://python.cn/mailman/listinfo/python-chinese >>>>> >>>>= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = >>>> >>>> >>>> 致 >>>>礼！ >>>> >>>> >>>> limodou >>>> chatme at 263.net >>>> 2004-08-19 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>python-chinese list >>>>python-chinese at lists.python.cn >>>>http://python.cn/mailman/listinfo/python-chinese >>>> >>>_______________________________________________ >>>python-chinese list >>>python-chinese at lists.python.cn >>>http://python.cn/mailman/listinfo/python-chinese >>> >> >>= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = >> >> >> 致 >>礼！ >> >> >> limodou >> chatme at 263.net >> 2004-08-19 >> >> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>python-chinese list >>python-chinese at lists.python.cn >>http://python.cn/mailman/listinfo/python-chinese >> > >_______________________________________________ >python-chinese list >python-chinese at lists.python.cn >http://python.cn/mailman/listinfo/python-chinese > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = 致 礼！ limodou chatme at 263.net 2004-08-19
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2004年08月19日 星期四 14:27
Zoom.Quiet zoomq at infopro.cn
Thu Aug 19 14:27:10 HKT 2004
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Thu Aug 19 14:27:10 HKT 2004
Hollo wlt: 咦咦咦？？没有使用邮件软件来本地发信？？ 这样的讨论应该在列表中公开进行是也乎？？ 有主意的，大家也就随手提了呢！ 私下来，效率低是也乎………… Limodou 也就一个人哪！ /******** [2004-08-19]14:25:54 ; wlt wrote: wlt at bdjpumps.com> 总加print多麻烦，python可以直接取道a得值，只要对象可以被全局中的变量引用。其实这个功能我感觉应该可以实现吧，因为python本身有这个功能，运行完一个脚本后直接进入交互环境，大概是-i之类把。我的msn:wlt008 at hotmail.com wlt at bdjpumps.com> qq:1935853，你可以加我。我发mail只能在线发，麻烦得要命：（ wlt at bdjpumps.com> limodou wrote: >>wlt,您好！ >> >> 那为什么不在那个脚本中增加一个输出，如print之类的语句呢？ >> 你的意思是说，比如 ： >> >> a = 10 >> >> 在pythonwin中运行后，可以得到a的值为10吗？ >> >>======= 2004-08-19 13:53:53 您在来信中写道：======= >> >>>hehe,只是我的一个想法而已，因为我常用activepython自带的pythonwin写脚本，觉得这个功能不错 :-) >>> >>>limodou wrote: >>> >>>>wlt,您好！ >>>> >>>> 还是不太懂。在一个程序中是global的，但它也只是那个程序的全局变量。运行结束自然就释放了。NewEdit运行程序使用的是启动另一个进程，无法得知另一个进程的信息。更何况这些信息在程序运行完也就释放了。 >>>> >>>> 我看你用的一些工作有些都是商业版的，象BlackAddr, visual python。 >>>> >>>> NewEdit >>>> 主要观注的是编程，调试功能只是运行。没有断点、单步什么的。因为它的定位是编辑器，不是一个集成环境(虽然不知道以后会不会作成一个集成环境)。而且它还可以用于其它语言的编辑，是一个通用的编辑器。 >>>> >>>> >>>>======= 2004-08-19 13:34:51 您在来信中写道：======= >>>> >>>>>就是说我在用pythonwin中F5运行完程序后可以直接在他的交互窗口察看global中的变量， >>>>>偶是新手，表述不清：） >>>>> >>>>>这两天测试了几个其他的ide,wingide >>>>>1.10是tk风格，太难看了，activestate的komodo漂 >>>>>亮的不行，用mozilla >>>>>framework做的，也是偶做perl时的最爱，不过最新版3.0在系统语言 >>>>>是cp936(就是gbk)编码下根本不能用，中文英文xp我都试过， 2.5版还可以，可以用，虽然 >>>>>不能输入中文：） >>>>>Boa感觉比较怪，大概是用来做wx >>>>>gui的吧，普通编程我看就不必了吧. BlackAddr看着不 >>>>>错，qt的，不过偶找不到破解，就没实际测。还有个spe(http://spe.pycs.net/weblog/)， >>>>>wx >>>>>的，比较新，不过介绍功能还不少，支持wxglade，还有个测试正则的工具，类似 >>>>>komodo。scite：被wx包裹进去了，没有类/函数列表，不爽：）Virual python，唯一一个 >>>>>在用'.'列属性时，属性和方法用不同图标表示出来的。不过用它要装vs2003：（除了这点 >>>>>感觉其他和komodo一样了。 >>>>> >>>>>// >>>>> >>>>>limodou wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>Wei Litao,您好！ >>>>>> >>>>>> 如果运行完程序后能像pythonwin切换到shell还能察看变量就好了 >>>>>> >>>>>> 这是什么意思呀，能不能再解释一下。 >>>>>> >>>>>>======= 2004-08-18 23:54:42 您在来信中写道：======= >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>Hello limodou, >>>>>>> >>>>>>>偶现在用它看代码，感觉还是满不错的，如果运行完程序后能像pythonwin切换到shell还能察看变量就好了：） >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Best regards, >>>>>>> >>>>>>>======= At 2004-08-18, 18:43:34 you wrote: ======= >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Zoom.Quiet,您好！ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 我会在2.5版出来后看能不能解决启动速度的问题。还有就是看能不能生成exe文件的问题。2.6版可能还会有很大的改动，这两个问题是2.6版的主攻方向。 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>======= 2004-08-18 18:02:03 您在来信中写道：======= >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Hollo limodou: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>支持！作为GUI 的代码库用也可以的！ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>就是启动速度实在是与VIM 有的一拼！ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>/******** [2004-08-18]18:01:26 ; limodou wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>limodou> python-chinese，您好！ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>limodou> >>>>>>>>>limodou> >>>>>>>>>有用NewEdit的打声招呼，让我也知道这东西有多大的价值好吧。好象大家对它没什么兴趣，也没什么希望啊。最近2.5版要出来了，增加了ftp远程打开保存文件功能，简单地项目管理功能，上下文敏感缩近，自动补齐(,[,{等功能(这个功能其实很小)。有兴趣地支持我呀。 >>>>>>>>>limodou> :P >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>limodou> 致 >>>>>>>>>limodou> 礼！ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>limodou> limodou >>>>>>>>>limodou> chatme at 263.net >>>>>>>>>limodou> 2004-08-18 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>********************************************/ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>-- >>>>>>>>>Free as in Freedom >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Zoom.Quiet >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>#=========================================# >>>>>>>>>]Time is unimportant, only life important![ >>>>>>>>>#=========================================# >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>sender is the Bat!2.12.00 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>python-chinese list >>>>>>>>>python-chinese at lists.python.cn >>>>>>>>>http://python.cn/mailman/listinfo/python-chinese >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 致 >>>>>>>>礼！ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> limodou >>>>>>>> chatme at 263.net >>>>>>>> 2004-08-18 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>python-chinese list >>>>>>>>python-chinese at lists.python.cn >>>>>>>>http://python.cn/mailman/listinfo/python-chinese >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Wei Litao >>>>>>>wlt at bdjpumps.com >>>>>>>2004-08-18 >>>>>>> >>>>>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>>>>python-chinese list >>>>>>>python-chinese at lists.python.cn >>>>>>>http://python.cn/mailman/listinfo/python-chinese >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> 致 >>>>>>礼！ >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> limodou >>>>>> chatme at 263.net >>>>>> 2004-08-19 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> >>>>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>>>python-chinese list >>>>>>python-chinese at lists.python.cn >>>>>>http://python.cn/mailman/listinfo/python-chinese >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>>python-chinese list >>>>>python-chinese at lists.python.cn >>>>>http://python.cn/mailman/listinfo/python-chinese >>>>> >>>>= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = >>>> >>>> >>>> 致 >>>>礼！ >>>> >>>> >>>> limodou >>>> chatme at 263.net >>>> 2004-08-19 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>python-chinese list >>>>python-chinese at lists.python.cn >>>>http://python.cn/mailman/listinfo/python-chinese >>>> >>>_______________________________________________ >>>python-chinese list >>>python-chinese at lists.python.cn >>>http://python.cn/mailman/listinfo/python-chinese >>> >> >>= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = >> >> >> 致 >>礼！ >> >> >> limodou >> chatme at 263.net >> 2004-08-19 >> >> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>python-chinese list >>python-chinese at lists.python.cn >>http://python.cn/mailman/listinfo/python-chinese >> ********************************************/ -- Free as in Freedom Zoom.Quiet #=========================================# ]Time is unimportant, only life important![ #=========================================# sender is the Bat!2.12.00
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