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标题:[python-chinese] 大家对Ruby on Rails怎么看?

2005年05月08日 星期日 10:11

epaulin epaulin at gmail.com
Sun May 8 10:11:57 HKT 2005

http://www.zope.org/Members/timmorgan/products/React/React-0.5/React-0.5
React Application Framework 0.5 Released
Version 0.5 of the React Application Framework for Zope-based web
applications is released. This is the first version where React is a
full-blown Zope 2.x product. Many changes have been made since past
versions, so upgrading is highly recommended. 
React is a Zope product that provides an application skeleton,
dispatcher, and object-relational mapper for building web applications
inside Zope. React steals a lot of concepts from the Ruby on Rails
framework, and attempts to mimic its style of MVC organization in the
Zope environment.

You can find out more about React here and download it here.




在 2005-04-27三的 13:53 +0800,清风写道:
> 有人尝试过Ruby on Rails了吗?谈谈体会?
> 
> 【转】
> 有一个性能测试,据说ROR>Hibernate+Spring+Struts , 居然还多15-20%。敢这样
> 说总有点来头的,况且开发速度要>10倍以上。
> 
> 【转】
> ROR is Ruby on Rails. Ruby 众所周知已经是一种非常出色的动态语言 It's
> dynamic language。Simple and easy.动态语言是解释执行的,但性能上可能会打
> 个折扣,但不是绝对的,因为应用是复杂的,性能是一种综合性的,这个在一个流
> 传的测试中有回应。
> 
> Python与Ruby应该算竞争关系了,我总觉得也可以实现类似的应用,不知是否有?
> 
> _______________________________________________
> python-chinese list
> python-chinese at lists.python.cn
> http://python.cn/mailman/listinfo/python-chinese


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2005年05月08日 星期日 14:23

jawbreaker at 163.com jawbreaker at 163.com
Sun May 8 14:23:02 HKT 2005

wang fei,您好!

	我刚试了,下载地址还能用,不过,我也可以发一个给你,告诉我你的邮箱。

======= 2005-05-09 00:44:19 您在来信中写道:=======

>这个地址现在似乎不能用了,能不能把文件发给我,我可以给大家提供下载地址。
>DreamY wrote:
>
>>Python的执行效率跟VC不是一个数量级的。Python的优势在开发,不在运行。
>>jawbreaker wrote:
>>
>>  
>>
>>>我的是 AMD64 2800+ ,速度也很慢,想不通的就是为啥VC编译的能快那么多!
>>>
>>>马剑 wrote:
>>>
>>>    
>>>
>>>>运行速度确实很慢。。。
>>>>电脑思考的时候CPU100%要8秒左右。。。。我的是迅驰1.7G。
>>>>因为是解释执行,循环太多了,慢也是必然的。。。。
>>>>不过倒也学了不少,谢谢帖主啦!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>On Wed, 4 May 2005 14:01:00 +0800 (CST)
>>>>"jawbreaker" <jawbreaker at 163.com> wrote:
>>>>=================================================================
>>>>
>>>>      
>>>>
>>>>>五一放假,希望能为Python社区作点贡献,于是就把网上找来的一个用VC编写
>>>>>        
>>>>>
>>>的五子棋程序转为Python+wxPython的代码实现。
>>>    
>>>
>>>>>希望这个程序能成为大家有用的参考素材之一。临时借用的下载地址:
>>>>>
>>>>>http://www.etsurvey.nease.net/download/chess.rar
>>>>>
>>>>>不过,这个程序的智能处理部分如果是用VC实现,编译后运行非常快,但用
>>>>>        
>>>>>
>>>python就很慢,大家有兴趣也可以研究研究原因……
>>>    
>>>
>>>>>我的运行环境是:Python2.4 + wxPython2.6(unicode版)
>>>>>        
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>_______________________________________________
>>>>python-chinese list
>>>>python-chinese at lists.python.cn
>>>>http://python.cn/mailman/listinfo/python-chinese
>>>>
>>>>      
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>什么邮箱可以注册长度3位用户名,好记又好用?
>>><http://www.188.com/index.htm?from=footer_other.com>
>>>
>>>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>>_______________________________________________
>>>python-chinese list
>>>python-chinese at lists.python.cn
>>>http://python.cn/mailman/listinfo/python-chinese
>>> 
>>>
>>>    
>>>
>>
>>
>>_______________________________________________
>>python-chinese list
>>python-chinese at lists.python.cn
>>http://python.cn/mailman/listinfo/python-chinese
>>
>>
>>  
>>
>
>
>
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>http://python.cn/mailman/listinfo/python-chinese
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= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
			

        致
礼!
 
				 
        jawbreaker
        jawbreaker at 163.com
          2005-05-08


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2005年05月08日 星期日 14:27

jawbreaker at 163.com jawbreaker at 163.com
Sun May 8 14:27:28 HKT 2005

wang fei,您好!

	噢,我没注意到发件人信息,源码发给你了。

======= 2005-05-09 00:44:19 您在来信中写道:=======

>这个地址现在似乎不能用了,能不能把文件发给我,我可以给大家提供下载地址。
>DreamY wrote:
>
>>Python的执行效率跟VC不是一个数量级的。Python的优势在开发,不在运行。
>>jawbreaker wrote:
>>
>>  
>>
>>>我的是 AMD64 2800+ ,速度也很慢,想不通的就是为啥VC编译的能快那么多!
>>>
>>>马剑 wrote:
>>>
>>>    
>>>
>>>>运行速度确实很慢。。。
>>>>电脑思考的时候CPU100%要8秒左右。。。。我的是迅驰1.7G。
>>>>因为是解释执行,循环太多了,慢也是必然的。。。。
>>>>不过倒也学了不少,谢谢帖主啦!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>On Wed, 4 May 2005 14:01:00 +0800 (CST)
>>>>"jawbreaker" <jawbreaker at 163.com> wrote:
>>>>=================================================================
>>>>
>>>>      
>>>>
>>>>>五一放假,希望能为Python社区作点贡献,于是就把网上找来的一个用VC编写
>>>>>        
>>>>>
>>>的五子棋程序转为Python+wxPython的代码实现。
>>>    
>>>
>>>>>希望这个程序能成为大家有用的参考素材之一。临时借用的下载地址:
>>>>>
>>>>>http://www.etsurvey.nease.net/download/chess.rar
>>>>>
>>>>>不过,这个程序的智能处理部分如果是用VC实现,编译后运行非常快,但用
>>>>>        
>>>>>
>>>python就很慢,大家有兴趣也可以研究研究原因……
>>>    
>>>
>>>>>我的运行环境是:Python2.4 + wxPython2.6(unicode版)
>>>>>        
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>_______________________________________________
>>>>python-chinese list
>>>>python-chinese at lists.python.cn
>>>>http://python.cn/mailman/listinfo/python-chinese
>>>>
>>>>      
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>什么邮箱可以注册长度3位用户名,好记又好用?
>>><http://www.188.com/index.htm?from=footer_other.com>
>>>
>>>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>>_______________________________________________
>>>python-chinese list
>>>python-chinese at lists.python.cn
>>>http://python.cn/mailman/listinfo/python-chinese
>>> 
>>>
>>>    
>>>
>>
>>
>>_______________________________________________
>>python-chinese list
>>python-chinese at lists.python.cn
>>http://python.cn/mailman/listinfo/python-chinese
>>
>>
>>  
>>
>
>
>
>_______________________________________________
>python-chinese list
>python-chinese at lists.python.cn
>http://python.cn/mailman/listinfo/python-chinese
>

= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
			

        致
礼!
 
				 
        jawbreaker
        jawbreaker at 163.com
          2005-05-08


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2005年05月10日 星期二 22:45

zm njmzhang at 163.com
Tue May 10 22:45:01 HKT 2005

刚学了一点Rails,感觉是学习、开发很容易,只需写一行代码就可以实现对数据
库的CRUD操作,比Zope上手快。 
更好的是几乎没有配置文件,所有的配置都采用约定的方式,有人说同一个程序,
Rails的总代码量才只有J2EE的配置文件的代码量。



On Sun, 08 May 2005 10:11:57 +0800
epaulin <epaulin at gmail.com> wrote:

> http://www.zope.org/Members/timmorgan/products/React/React-0.5/React-0.5
> React Application Framework 0.5 Released
> Version 0.5 of the React Application Framework for Zope-based web
> applications is released. This is the first version where React is a
> full-blown Zope 2.x product. Many changes have been made since past
> versions, so upgrading is highly recommended. 
> React is a Zope product that provides an application skeleton,
> dispatcher, and object-relational mapper for building web applications
> inside Zope. React steals a lot of concepts from the Ruby on Rails
> framework, and attempts to mimic its style of MVC organization in the
> Zope environment.
> 
> You can find out more about React here and download it here.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 在 2005-04-27三的 13:53 +0800,清风写道:
> > 有人尝试过Ruby on Rails了吗?谈谈体会?
> > 
> > 【转】
> > 有一个性能测试,据说ROR>Hibernate+Spring+Struts , 居然还多15-20%。敢这样
> > 说总有点来头的,况且开发速度要>10倍以上。
> > 
> > 【转】
> > ROR is Ruby on Rails. Ruby 众所周知已经是一种非常出色的动态语言 It's
> > dynamic language。Simple and easy.动态语言是解释执行的,但性能上可能会打
> > 个折扣,但不是绝对的,因为应用是复杂的,性能是一种综合性的,这个在一个流
> > 传的测试中有回应。
> > 
> > Python与Ruby应该算竞争关系了,我总觉得也可以实现类似的应用,不知是否有?
> > 
> > _______________________________________________
> > python-chinese list
> > python-chinese at lists.python.cn
> > http://python.cn/mailman/listinfo/python-chinese
> 
> _______________________________________________
> python-chinese list
> python-chinese at lists.python.cn
> http://python.cn/mailman/listinfo/python-chinese

-- 
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2005年05月11日 星期三 08:35

Neo Chan neo.chen at achievo.com
Wed May 11 08:35:14 HKT 2005

Ruby 日本人开发的。。。哈哈。。哎。。

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[mailto:python-chinese-bounces at lists.python.cn] 代表 zm
发送时间: Tuesday, May 10, 2005 10:45 PM
收件人: epaulin at gmail.com; python-chinese at lists.python.cn
主题: Re: [python-chinese] 大家对Ruby onRails怎么看?

刚学了一点Rails,感觉是学习、开发很容易,只需写一行代码就可以实现对数据
库的CRUD操作,比Zope上手快。 
更好的是几乎没有配置文件,所有的配置都采用约定的方式,有人说同一个程序,
Rails的总代码量才只有J2EE的配置文件的代码量。



On Sun, 08 May 2005 10:11:57 +0800
epaulin <epaulin at gmail.com> wrote:

> http://www.zope.org/Members/timmorgan/products/React/React-0.5/React-0.5
> React Application Framework 0.5 Released
> Version 0.5 of the React Application Framework for Zope-based web
> applications is released. This is the first version where React is a
> full-blown Zope 2.x product. Many changes have been made since past
> versions, so upgrading is highly recommended. 
> React is a Zope product that provides an application skeleton,
> dispatcher, and object-relational mapper for building web applications
> inside Zope. React steals a lot of concepts from the Ruby on Rails
> framework, and attempts to mimic its style of MVC organization in the
> Zope environment.
> 
> You can find out more about React here and download it here.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 在 2005-04-27三的 13:53 +0800,清风写道:
> > 有人尝试过Ruby on Rails了吗?谈谈体会?
> > 
> > 【转】
> > 有一个性能测试,据说ROR>Hibernate+Spring+Struts , 居然还多15-20%。敢这样
> > 说总有点来头的,况且开发速度要>10倍以上。
> > 
> > 【转】
> > ROR is Ruby on Rails. Ruby 众所周知已经是一种非常出色的动态语言 It's
> > dynamic language。Simple and easy.动态语言是解释执行的,但性能上可能会打
> > 个折扣,但不是绝对的,因为应用是复杂的,性能是一种综合性的,这个在一个流
> > 传的测试中有回应。
> > 
> > Python与Ruby应该算竞争关系了,我总觉得也可以实现类似的应用,不知是否有?
> > 
> > _______________________________________________
> > python-chinese list
> > python-chinese at lists.python.cn
> > http://python.cn/mailman/listinfo/python-chinese
> 
> _______________________________________________
> python-chinese list
> python-chinese at lists.python.cn
> http://python.cn/mailman/listinfo/python-chinese

-- 
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2005年05月11日 星期三 17:58

Eric_Hu1972 eric_hu1972 at yahoo.com.cn
Wed May 11 17:58:01 HKT 2005

不要这样狭隘的理解抗日,这是对真正的爱国者的智商的侮辱。

Neo Chan 写道:

>Ruby 日本人开发的。。。哈哈。。哎。。
>
>-----邮件原件-----
>发件人: python-chinese-bounces at lists.python.cn
>[mailto:python-chinese-bounces at lists.python.cn] 代表 zm
>发送时间: Tuesday, May 10, 2005 10:45 PM
>收件人: epaulin at gmail.com; python-chinese at lists.python.cn
>主题: Re: [python-chinese] 大家对Ruby onRails怎么看?
>
>刚学了一点Rails,感觉是学习、开发很容易,只需写一行代码就可以实现对数据
>库的CRUD操作,比Zope上手快。 
>更好的是几乎没有配置文件,所有的配置都采用约定的方式,有人说同一个程序,
>Rails的总代码量才只有J2EE的配置文件的代码量。
>
>
>
>On Sun, 08 May 2005 10:11:57 +0800
>epaulin <epaulin at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>  
>
>>http://www.zope.org/Members/timmorgan/products/React/React-0.5/React-0.5
>>React Application Framework 0.5 Released
>>Version 0.5 of the React Application Framework for Zope-based web
>>applications is released. This is the first version where React is a
>>full-blown Zope 2.x product. Many changes have been made since past
>>versions, so upgrading is highly recommended. 
>>React is a Zope product that provides an application skeleton,
>>dispatcher, and object-relational mapper for building web applications
>>inside Zope. React steals a lot of concepts from the Ruby on Rails
>>framework, and attempts to mimic its style of MVC organization in the
>>Zope environment.
>>
>>You can find out more about React here and download it here.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>在 2005-04-27三的 13:53 +0800,清风写道:
>>    
>>
>>>有人尝试过Ruby on Rails了吗?谈谈体会?
>>>
>>>【转】
>>>有一个性能测试,据说ROR>Hibernate+Spring+Struts , 居然还多15-20%。敢这样
>>>说总有点来头的,况且开发速度要>10倍以上。
>>>
>>>【转】
>>>ROR is Ruby on Rails. Ruby 众所周知已经是一种非常出色的动态语言 It's
>>>dynamic language。Simple and easy.动态语言是解释执行的,但性能上可能会打
>>>个折扣,但不是绝对的,因为应用是复杂的,性能是一种综合性的,这个在一个流
>>>传的测试中有回应。
>>>
>>>Python与Ruby应该算竞争关系了,我总觉得也可以实现类似的应用,不知是否有?
>>>
>>>_______________________________________________
>>>python-chinese list
>>>python-chinese at lists.python.cn
>>>http://python.cn/mailman/listinfo/python-chinese
>>>      
>>>
>>_______________________________________________
>>python-chinese list
>>python-chinese at lists.python.cn
>>http://python.cn/mailman/listinfo/python-chinese
>>    
>>
>
>  
>
>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>_______________________________________________
>python-chinese list
>python-chinese at lists.python.cn
>http://python.cn/mailman/listinfo/python-chinese
>  
>


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2005年05月12日 星期四 09:03

wang fei linuxbbs at 163.com
Thu May 12 09:03:13 HKT 2005

林则徐的话:“师夷长技以制夷”。


Eric_Hu1972 wrote:

>不要这样狭隘的理解抗日,这是对真正的爱国者的智商的侮辱。
>
>Neo Chan 写道:
>
>  
>
>>Ruby 日本人开发的。。。哈哈。。哎。。
>>
>>-----邮件原件-----
>>发件人: python-chinese-bounces at lists.python.cn
>>[mailto:python-chinese-bounces at lists.python.cn] 代表 zm
>>发送时间: Tuesday, May 10, 2005 10:45 PM
>>收件人: epaulin at gmail.com; python-chinese at lists.python.cn
>>主题: Re: [python-chinese] 大家对Ruby onRails怎么看?
>>
>>刚学了一点Rails,感觉是学习、开发很容易,只需写一行代码就可以实现对数据
>>库的CRUD操作,比Zope上手快。 
>>更好的是几乎没有配置文件,所有的配置都采用约定的方式,有人说同一个程序,
>>Rails的总代码量才只有J2EE的配置文件的代码量。
>>
>>
>>
>>On Sun, 08 May 2005 10:11:57 +0800
>>epaulin <epaulin at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>>    
>>
>>>http://www.zope.org/Members/timmorgan/products/React/React-0.5/React-0.5
>>>React Application Framework 0.5 Released
>>>Version 0.5 of the React Application Framework for Zope-based web
>>>applications is released. This is the first version where React is a
>>>full-blown Zope 2.x product. Many changes have been made since past
>>>versions, so upgrading is highly recommended. 
>>>React is a Zope product that provides an application skeleton,
>>>dispatcher, and object-relational mapper for building web applications
>>>inside Zope. React steals a lot of concepts from the Ruby on Rails
>>>framework, and attempts to mimic its style of MVC organization in the
>>>Zope environment.
>>>
>>>You can find out more about React here and download it here.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>在 2005-04-27三的 13:53 +0800,清风写道:
>>>   
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>>>有人尝试过Ruby on Rails了吗?谈谈体会?
>>>>
>>>>【转】
>>>>有一个性能测试,据说ROR>Hibernate+Spring+Struts , 居然还多15-20%。敢这样
>>>>说总有点来头的,况且开发速度要>10倍以上。
>>>>
>>>>【转】
>>>>ROR is Ruby on Rails. Ruby 众所周知已经是一种非常出色的动态语言 It's
>>>>dynamic language。Simple and easy.动态语言是解释执行的,但性能上可能会打
>>>>个折扣,但不是绝对的,因为应用是复杂的,性能是一种综合性的,这个在一个流
>>>>传的测试中有回应。
>>>>
>>>>Python与Ruby应该算竞争关系了,我总觉得也可以实现类似的应用,不知是否有?
>>>>
>>>>_______________________________________________
>>>>python-chinese list
>>>>python-chinese at lists.python.cn
>>>>http://python.cn/mailman/listinfo/python-chinese
>>>>     
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>_______________________________________________
>>>python-chinese list
>>>python-chinese at lists.python.cn
>>>http://python.cn/mailman/listinfo/python-chinese
>>>   
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>> 
>>
>>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>>_______________________________________________
>>python-chinese list
>>python-chinese at lists.python.cn
>>http://python.cn/mailman/listinfo/python-chinese
>> 
>>
>>    
>>
>
>_______________________________________________
>python-chinese list
>python-chinese at lists.python.cn
>http://python.cn/mailman/listinfo/python-chinese
>
>
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2005年05月12日 星期四 09:41

Neo Chan neo.chen at achievo.com
Thu May 12 09:41:29 HKT 2005

我没抗日啊。。我喜欢日货哦哈哈。我爱搞摄影,我喜欢Nikon and Canon

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[mailto:python-chinese-bounces at lists.python.cn] 代表 Eric_Hu1972
发送时间: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 5:58 PM
收件人: python-chinese at lists.python.cn
主题: Re: 答复: [python-chinese] 大家对Ruby onRails怎么看?

不要这样狭隘的理解抗日,这是对真正的爱国者的智商的侮辱。

Neo Chan 写道:

>Ruby 日本人开发的。。。哈哈。。哎。。
>
>-----邮件原件-----
>发件人: python-chinese-bounces at lists.python.cn
>[mailto:python-chinese-bounces at lists.python.cn] 代表 zm
>发送时间: Tuesday, May 10, 2005 10:45 PM
>收件人: epaulin at gmail.com; python-chinese at lists.python.cn
>主题: Re: [python-chinese] 大家对Ruby onRails怎么看?
>
>刚学了一点Rails,感觉是学习、开发很容易,只需写一行代码就可以实现对数据
>库的CRUD操作,比Zope上手快。 
>更好的是几乎没有配置文件,所有的配置都采用约定的方式,有人说同一个程序,
>Rails的总代码量才只有J2EE的配置文件的代码量。
>
>
>
>On Sun, 08 May 2005 10:11:57 +0800
>epaulin <epaulin at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>  
>
>>http://www.zope.org/Members/timmorgan/products/React/React-0.5/React-0.5
>>React Application Framework 0.5 Released
>>Version 0.5 of the React Application Framework for Zope-based web
>>applications is released. This is the first version where React is a
>>full-blown Zope 2.x product. Many changes have been made since past
>>versions, so upgrading is highly recommended. 
>>React is a Zope product that provides an application skeleton,
>>dispatcher, and object-relational mapper for building web applications
>>inside Zope. React steals a lot of concepts from the Ruby on Rails
>>framework, and attempts to mimic its style of MVC organization in the
>>Zope environment.
>>
>>You can find out more about React here and download it here.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>在 2005-04-27三的 13:53 +0800,清风写道:
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>>
>>>有人尝试过Ruby on Rails了吗?谈谈体会?
>>>
>>>【转】
>>>有一个性能测试,据说ROR>Hibernate+Spring+Struts , 居然还多15-20%。敢这样
>>>说总有点来头的,况且开发速度要>10倍以上。
>>>
>>>【转】
>>>ROR is Ruby on Rails. Ruby 众所周知已经是一种非常出色的动态语言 It's
>>>dynamic language。Simple and easy.动态语言是解释执行的,但性能上可能会打
>>>个折扣,但不是绝对的,因为应用是复杂的,性能是一种综合性的,这个在一个流
>>>传的测试中有回应。
>>>
>>>Python与Ruby应该算竞争关系了,我总觉得也可以实现类似的应用,不知是否有?
>>>
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