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这种没有意义的旧闻，可以不用发在这里

2005/6/28, Neo Chan (netkiller) <neo.chen at achievo.com>:
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> de Raadt最近就猛烈抨击了日渐流行的开放源操作系统Linux。 
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> 他表示："这太可怕了。每个人都在用它，但没有人意识到它有多糟糕。而且Linux的支持者顽固坚持己见，而不是退后一步说，'这是个垃圾，我们应该修复它。'"
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> OpenBSD是BSD(Berkeley Software
> Distribution)Unix三大开放源变种的一个，它也是苹果Mac OS
> X操作系统的基石。其它两种为FreeBSD与NetBSD。OpenBSD自豪于它的安全性。 
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> 当与商业软件的代码质量相比时，尽管Linux经常得到研究人员的高度赞赏，De
> Raadt仍然大唱反调。"我认为我们的代码质量高过Linux，仅仅是因为我们真正致力于此。Linux从来没有看重过质量。有太多的系统部分仅仅是这些廉价�9
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我一直在用Linux，但说实话，的确是垃圾！
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Neo Chan (netkiller) 
  To: python-chinese at lists.python.cn 
  Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2005 5:35 PM
  Subject: [python-chinese] 开放源阵营起内讧，OpenBSD阵营抨击Linux 


        开放源阵营起内讧，OpenBSD阵营抨击Linux
       
        上网时间 : 2005年06月28日 
          

       
              如果说Windows和Linux支持者之间还有些许好感的话，那么Linux支持者与另一开放源阵营OpenBSD的支持者之间的好感则荡然无存。据Forbes杂志日前的一篇报道称，OpenBSD创始人Theo de Raadt最近就猛烈抨击了日渐流行的开放源操作系统Linux。 

              他表示：“这太可怕了。每个人都在用它，但没有人意识到它有多糟糕。而且Linux的支持者顽固坚持己见，而不是退后一步说，‘这是个垃圾，我们应该修复它。’” 

              OpenBSD是BSD(Berkeley Software Distribution)Unix三大开放源变种的一个，它也是苹果Mac OS X操作系统的基石。其它两种为FreeBSD与NetBSD。OpenBSD自豪于它的安全性。 

              当与商业软件的代码质量相比时，尽管Linux经常得到研究人员的高度赞赏，De Raadt仍然大唱反调。“我认为我们的代码质量高过Linux，仅仅是因为我们真正致力于此。Linux从来没有看重过质量。有太多的系统部分仅仅是这些廉价罹



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这个要看怎么用啊...
没听说过谁拿netbsd当桌面用的...
就看见用来做防火墙了...
2005/6/28, Frank <gavin at sz.net.cn>:
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> 我一直在用Linux，但说实话，的确是垃圾！ 
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> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: Neo Chan (netkiller) 
> To: python-chinese at lists.python.cn 
> Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2005 5:35 PM 
> Subject: [python-chinese] 开放源阵营起内讧，OpenBSD阵营抨击Linux 
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> 如果说Windows和Linux支持者之间还有些许好感的话，那么Linux支持者与另一开放源阵营OpenBSD的支持者之间的好感则荡然无存。据Forbes杂志日前的一篇报道称，OpenBSD创始人Theo
> de Raadt最近就猛烈抨击了日渐流行的开放源操作系统Linux。 
> 
> 他表示："这太可怕了。每个人都在用它，但没有人意识到它有多糟糕。而且Linux的支持者顽固坚持己见，而不是退后一步说，'这是个垃圾，我们应该修复它。'"
> 
> OpenBSD是BSD(Berkeley Software
> Distribution)Unix三大开放源变种的一个，它也是苹果Mac OS
> X操作系统的基石。其它两种为FreeBSD与NetBSD。OpenBSD自豪于它的安全性。 
> 
> 当与商业软件的代码质量相比时，尽管Linux经常得到研究人员的高度赞赏，De
> Raadt仍然大唱反调。"我认为我们的代码质量高过Linux，仅仅是因为我们真正致力于此。Linux从来没有看重过质量。有太多的系统部分仅仅是这些廉价罹
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各位大侠，我想在我的nokia n－gage手机上安装python，但不知道下载那个版本的，有什么ed版，sdk版等，到底下载那个？
  
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在Nokia的网站上下载一个sis文件，sis文件你应该清楚吧，这是symbian平台特有的安装文件格式。

在这个页面：
http://www.forum.nokia.com/main/0,,034-821,00.html
的右边中间的download里面,找PythonForSeries60_2end_sis.zip文件，下载。

下回来后，把sis安装包传到手机上，在手机里面安装，就有了。

至于SDK文件，那是作开发用的，是安装到pc机上的。

谢谢大侠，我已经安装了那个sis文件，并运行了，但运行起来太不方便了，特别是在
command line ">>>"下面

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[mailto:python-chinese-bounces at lists.python.cn]On Behalf Of alang yin
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 1:52 PM
To: python-chinese at lists.python.cn
Subject: Re: [python-chinese] 我想在我的nokia n－gage手机上安装python


在Nokia的网站上下载一个sis文件，sis文件你应该清楚吧，这是symbian平台特有的安
装文件格式。

在这个页面：
http://www.forum.nokia.com/main/0,,034-821,00.html
的右边中间的download里面,找PythonForSeries60_2end_sis.zip文件，下载。

下回来后，把sis安装包传到手机上，在手机里面安装，就有了。

至于SDK文件，那是作开发用的，是安装到pc机上的。

这个jam.zheng和那个NetKiller是在同一个公司吗？
都不能上网吗？

在 05-6-29，alang yin<alang.yl at gmail.com> 写道：
> 在Nokia的网站上下载一个sis文件，sis文件你应该清楚吧，这是symbian平台特有的安装文件格式。
> 
> 在这个页面：
> http://www.forum.nokia.com/main/0,,034-821,00.html
> 的右边中间的download里面,找PythonForSeries60_2end_sis.zip文件，下载。
> 
> 下回来后，把sis安装包传到手机上，在手机里面安装，就有了。
> 
> 至于SDK文件，那是作开发用的，是安装到pc机上的。
> 
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> python-chinese at lists.python.cn
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是的，外包公司很恶心的，不能上网，所以很想用python做个轻量及的代理服务器软
件，偷偷的上网

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:python-chinese-bounces at lists.python.cn]On Behalf Of nEO
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 2:03 PM
To: alang yin; python-chinese at lists.python.cn
Subject: Re: [python-chinese] 我想在我的nokia n－gage手机上安装python


这个jam.zheng和那个NetKiller是在同一个公司吗？
都不能上网吗？

在 05-6-29，alang yin<alang.yl at gmail.com> 写道：
> 在Nokia的网站上下载一个sis文件，sis文件你应该清楚吧，这是symbian平台特有的
安装文件格式。
>
> 在这个页面：
> http://www.forum.nokia.com/main/0,,034-821,00.html
> 的右边中间的download里面,找PythonForSeries60_2end_sis.zip文件，下载。
>
> 下回来后，把sis安装包传到手机上，在手机里面安装，就有了。
>
> 至于SDK文件，那是作开发用的，是安装到pc机上的。
>
> _______________________________________________
> python-chinese list
> python-chinese at lists.python.cn
> http://python.cn/mailman/listinfo/python-chinese
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通过MAIL访问互联网。向 <agora at dna.affrc.go.jp> 信箱发信，信的主体写上 bsource [url]就可以了


请看下面的文档



  To: <agora at dna.affrc.go.jp>

---------------------------


         ****************************************************
         **  Agora: Retrieving WWW Documents through mail  **
         ****************************************************


          Welcome to Agora, the World-Wide Web email browser!

** Last modify 2000.Jan.7

[CAUTION] Our agora server is logging your request by e-mail.
          We keep watching these log for maintenance
          of our agora server. 

[CAUTION] We have put a below restriction of usage to keep our
          computer-system well.

          o a process generated from a request keep alive for 10
           minutes. If the process could not finish in 10 minutes,
           it is killed automatically.


** Index **
    1. Introduction
    2. Commands related to the retrieval of W3 documents
    3. Frequently Asked Questions
    4. Credits
    A. References


1. Introduction
----------------

    To retrieve a document, you just have to specify its "address",
called a "Uniform Resource Locator" (URL). For example, the URL of 
help document is 

    http://www.dna.affrc.go.jp/htdocs/Agora/Help.txt

    This means that to get it, you just have to send a mail to
<agora at dna.affrc.go.jp>, with whatever subject you like,
the body of the mail being:

   SEND http://www.dna.affrc.go.jp/htdocs/Agora/Help.txt

   If this is the first time you enter this new medium, we suggest
you look at the following documents:

    http://www.w3.org/TheProject.html
          The World-Wide Web Initiative[1]

    http://www.boutell.com/faq/
        World-Wide Web Frequently Asked Questions[2]

    In this new media, most documents are hypertext. In such a case
you will notice numbers in square brackets such as [12] next to
some special words.
    This means you may access a new document, hopefully  related to
the word(s) preceding the [12]. If you are interested to see this
new document, you will find at the bottom of the document containing
the [12] a list of URLs, next to numbers. Then, just copy the URL
next to [12], and paste it to the body of a mail you send to
<agora at dna.affrc.go.jp> . If you are lazy, there is another way to
retrieve W3 documents  through email: just reply to
<agora at dna.affrc.go.jp> , and specify in the body the number(s) you are
interested in. This program will figure out which document you are
interested in by looking at the subject header that you then have to
preserve.


Example 1
=========

    You'd like to know more about the World-Wide Web Initiative ?
All right, the number between brackets is 1. Let's look at the
bottom of  this page. 1 corresponds to
http://www.w3.org/TheProject.html .

So you have to send a mail to <agora at dna.affrc.go.jp> with the body:
SEND http://www.w3.org/TheProject.html

Example 2
=========
    You still have some questions on World-Wide Web ? All right, the
appropriate documents are "World-Wide Web Development" and  
"Frequently Asked Questions". They have the numbers 2 and 3 in 
brackets next to them. So you reply to the mail from 
<agora at dna.affrc.go.jp> that you are currently reading, and write in 
the body:
    2 3

    Note: If your mail tool truncates subject lines, it may be 
useful for you to know that this robot needs only the part 
(URL: ...) to  determine what the numbers refer to.


2. Commands related to the retrieval of W3 documents
-----------------------------------------------------
    Everything appearing in [] below is optional; everything
appearing in is mandatory; all commands are case insensitive.

2.1 send [URL], www [URL]

    send [URL]
    www [URL]

this will send you back the document you requested, with all its
hrefs, so that you may ask further requests. (if the document is
too large, you will get only its first 5000 lines). 
The URL sent is case sensitive and may contain the following
characters:

    abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyzABCDEFGHIJK
    LMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ0123456789:/._-+@%*()?$#&=

If you do not specify URL, agora will send help document.

<> E-MAIL MAX Line LIMIT: 5000 lines!!!

    Example: with mail body
        send http://www.w3.org/
        www http://www.cern.ch/

2.2 rsend  
    Same as "send", but you can specify a different return-path

    Example:
        rsend zorro at horsemen.holywood.com http://www.w3.org/
    
2.3 deep 
    Same as "send", but it will also send you the documents referred
to in the URL you mentioned. (If the documents are too large, you 
will get only the first 5 000  lines of what "deep" should provide).
Be cautious when using "deep"! Agora might mail to you
several dozens of documents!

    Example:
        deep http://www.w3.org/
    

2.4 source 
    Same as "send", but allows you to see the source of the document,
so that you may use a nicer HTML browser to read it

   Example:
       source http://www.w3.org/

<> E-MAIL MAX Line LIMIT: 5000 lines!!!

2.5 rsource  
    Same as "source", but you can specify a different return-path

    Example:
        rssource  zorro at horsemen.holywood.com http://www.w3.org/
    

2.6 help
    This document

2.7 bsource
    same as source, but uuencode the document.

    Example: 
       bsource http://www.w3.org/


3. Frequently Asked Questions
------------------------------

3.1 How can I access to the internet search engines ?  (Modified 1997/Jun/12)

(1) MetaCrawler  
MetaCrawer is available to agora.
MetaCrawler queries the other search engines(Lycos, Infoseek, WebCrawler, 
Excite, Alta Vista, and Yahoo), organizes the results into a uniform 
format, ranks them by relevance, and returns them to the user.
If you want to seek "agora" info, please send agora at dna.affrc.go.jp with mail body

SEND http://www.metacrawler.com/crawler?general=agora&method;=0

you will get the searching result(html version) by using Metaclawler.


(2) LYCOS and YAHOO 

    If you want to seek "bill gates" info. on the Internet,
please send <agora at dna.affrc.go.jp>  with mail body

send http://www.lycos.com/cgi-bin/pursuit?query=bill+gates
send http://search.yahoo.com/bin/search?p=winzip+zip

Our agora can allow the characters "=" and "&". So you can specify URL 
like below:

send http://lycos11.lycos.cs.cmu.edu/cgi-bin/flpursuit?first=11\&maxhits;=10\&minterms;=1\&minscore;=0.01\&terse;=standard\&query;=bill+gates

send http://search.yahoo.com/bin/search?p=genbank+dna\\&y;=y\\&r;=Science

you will get the searching result in the Lycos search result format.


(3) WAIS Search in Oxford Univ

    If you want to seek "bill gates" info. on the wais gateway
on the Internet, please send <agora at dna.affrc.go.jp> with mail body

send http://www.lib.ox.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wwwwais/cgi-bin/flpursuit?bill+gates

you will get the searching result in the wais search result.
*** Note ***
We have a problem to search by this url. We are now investigating. Sorry. (1998.May.25)


(4) Hyper RFC

If you want to seek RFC(REquest For Comment) documents about MIME descriptions. Please send agora at dna.affrc.go.jp with mail body

send http://www.csl.sony.co.jp/cgi-bin/hyperrfc?MIME

you will get the archive lists of RFC on "MIME".


(5) WebCrawler

WebCrawler is another Spiders' based search engine.
If you want to seek "bill gates" info., please send agora at dna.affrc.go.jp
 with mail body

SEND http://www.webcrawler.com/cgi-bin/WebQuery?bill+gates

you will get the searching result(html version) by using WebCrawler.


(6) Veronica Search
  
Veronica search is available to agora.
If you want to seek "bill gates" info., please send agora at dna.affrc.go.jp
 with mail body

  source gopher://empire.nysernet.org:2347/7?bill+gates
*** Note ***
We have a problem to search by this url. We are now investigating. Sorry. (1998.May.25)

you will get the searching result(html version)

(7) Alta Vista

Alta Vista is an another search engine.
If you want to seek "bill gates" info., please send agora at dna.affrc.go.jp
 with mail body

SEND http://altavista.digital.com/cgi-bin/query?pg=q&what;=web&fmt;=.&q;=bill+gates

you will get the searching result(html version) by using Alta Vista.

(8) Google

Google is an another search engine and it return high-quality search results.
If you want to seek "bill gates" info., please send agora at dna.affrc.go.jp
 with mail body

SEND http://www.google.com/search?q=bill+gates#=10

you will get the searching result(html version) by using Google.


3.2 About News

------------------------------

3.2.1 Can I read Netnews ?

There are two ways to retrieve news: 
  using deja news server http://www.dejanews.com/
  and using our local news server
We suggest you to use deja news server to retrieve news.

    Example (To get articles in a newsgroup bionet.software):
        SEND http://www.dejanews.com/dnquery.xp?QRY=&DBS;=2&ST;=PS&defaultOp;=AND&LNG;=ALL&format;=terse&showsort;=score&maxhits;=25&groups;=bionet.software

If you want to retrieve news written in Japnese language,
you can use our local news server.

    Example (To get articles in a newsgroup fj.sci.bio):
       SEND news:fj.sci.bio

Our local news server is subscribing following newsgroups;

    fj, alt(subset),  bionet,  comp,  rec,  sci,  soc
    For detail, see following URL:
        http://www.dna.affrc.go.jp/htdocs/Agora/news_index.html

    Please read the internet handbooks if you are not familiar 
    with the newsgroups. 

*** Note ***
Retriving news from our local news server is not fully supported.
It has following problems:
  o The reply of some newsgroups is HTML source, not translated to
    formated text data.
  o Our agora has no response to some newsgroups access. 
    It causes core dump. and is not fixed.

------------------------------

3.2.2 Can I post an article.
No.
In our agora, it does not allow posting to news, only allow
reading. Because the news server that our agora uses is not anonymous
server.

------------------------------

3.3 About binary data

------------------------------

3.3.1 I tried to download graphics file by using agora service but failed.
    Is it possible to do that ?

Yes it is. Agora is able to send binary data by uuencoding. But our agora
has a limitation that maximum line in a mail is 5000. Maybe we can not send
a complete data if you want to get large binary data.

ALT.BINARIES.PICTURES UTILITIES ARCHIVE
http://mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu/%7Edeej/index.html is much helpful,

if you would have not know how to unzip or uuencode/uudecode the binary/
ascii encoding mail.

------------------------------

3.3.2 Agora says below in his reply.
"*** Sorry, we do not send more than 5000 lines through email for one
 set of requests ***"
Any another solution on the issue?

It is impossible to get big binary data by using agora.(See 3.3.1)
But if your requested file is in Anonymous FTP resource, ie, if the
URL you specified is like "ftp://foo/bar", then you can get it by
using ftpmail service(ftpmail at dna.affrc.go.jp).

If you want to use the ftpmail service, then please mail to
ftpmail at dna.affrc.go.jp with "help" in mail body. The server will send 
back the usage of ftpmail service to you.

------------------------------

3.3.3 How to get image file that just says [IMAGE] in agora reply

At first, we must say that you need a knowledge of HTML syntax to get
an inline image url.

You can get image file by "SEND image_file_url" command same as to get 
 a normal document.
And you can get URL of the image_file_url by "SOURCE" command like
below example.

Example) How to get [IMAGE] file
If you want [IMAGE] on Fig.1, then:

(1) get HTML source.
Send a mail to agora at dna.affrc.go.jp with the body:
source http://bank.dna.affrc.go.jp/

You will get a mail like Fig.2.

(2) Read the HTML source and search "IMG" tag.

(3) construct inline image url.
In case of this, you can construct url "http://bank.dna.affrc.go.jp/ine.gif"
with "http://bank.dna.affrc.go.jp/".

(4) get inline image
Send a mail to agora at dna.affrc.go.jp with the body:
send http://bank.dna.affrc.go.jp/ine.gif

---- Fig.1 Part of "send http://bank.dna.affrc.go.jp/" result ------------
Genome Projects in Ministry of Agriculture, Forestry and Fisheries and
its research activities

      Rice Genome Project[2] [IMAGE]
      
      Genone Map Information[3]
--------------------------------------------------------------------------

---- Fig.2 the Part of "source http://bank.dna.affrc.go.jp/" result ------
Genome Projects in Ministry of Agriculture, Forestry and Fisheries and
its research activities

http://www.dna.affrc.go.jp:82/">Rice Genome Project

http://www.dna.affrc.go.jp/htdocs/rgp_map/index.html">Genone Map Information
--------------------------------------------------------------------------


3.4 misc
------------------------------

3.4.1 Can I get documents that are referenced from agora's reply ?

If you want to get these documents, please send agora at dna.affrc.go.jp
with Subject 
    (URL: your request)   
and with body
    reference-number

example :
  To: agora at dna.affrc.go.jp
  Subject: (URL: http://www.dna.affrc.go.jp/) 

  2 3

If your mail tool truncates subject lines, it may be useful for you
to know that this robot needs only the part (URL: ...) to  determine
what the numbers refer to.

------------------------------

3.4.2 I have sent the right request. But I can not get reference documents.

In writing a request in "Subject: " with the reference number 
in the mail body, please check following points.

  1) URL in Subject is ONE LINE, which mean without line break
  2) URL in Subject must embrace between '(URL: 'and ')'

Agora received many corrupted requests even if you have sent the
right request. Some mail tool inserts line breaks, word wraps, 
truncates subject lines. Please send the request to yourself to 
check your request is intact or not.

  Bad examples:

  1) () miss match
  "Subject: Re: (URL: http://www.dna.affrc.go.jp/"

  2) Divided subject line.
  "Subject: Re: (URL: 
      http://www.dna.affrc.go.jp/)"

  3) No space between "URL:" and "http"
  "Subject: Re: (URL:http://www.dna.affrc.go.jp/)"

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3.4.3 I got Chinese/Korean documents. But it is written by strange 
    characters. Can I get them in correct characters?

Use bsource command. (See 2.7)
The send and source command is specialized for Japanese when
it encountered 8 bit character such as Chinese/Japanese/Korean.
But bsource command send any document with uu-encoding, without 
encoding to a specific langage. 


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3.4.4 I have sent right request. But I can not get any reply.

Agora checks header of a received mail and determines whether the mail
is a request, an error mail, or a bounced error mail. When agora does
not determine the mail as a request, it forces to exit.

For example, agora does not determine as a request in below cases.
  (1) the "From: " or "Reply-to: " address matches agora.
  (2) the "From: " or  "Reply-to: " address matches daemon.
  (3) the "Subject: " field matches "RETURNED MAIL"

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3.4.5 Can URLs requested be split over two or more lines in the body of
 a message ? 

Yes, you can. In DISC Agora, it treats following line that does not
begin agora commands as a continuous part of previous line.
For example, request (1) is same request (2).

(1) 
send http://www.dna.affrc.go.jp/ind
ex.html
send http://lycos11.lycos.cs.cmu.ed
u/cgi-bin/flpursuit?first=11\&maxhi;
ts=10\&minterms;=1\&minscore;=0.01\&t;
erse=standard\&query;=bill+gates
(2) 
send http://www.dna.affrc.go.jp/index.html
send http://lycos11.lycos.cs.cmu.edu/cgi-bin/flpursuit?first=11\&maxhits;=10\&minterms;=1\&minscore;=0.01\&terse;=standard\&query;=bill+gates


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4. Credits
-----------

* Original Agora was developed by the CERN Agora Term
        Arthur Secret (agora-request at mail.w3.org)
* The original agora is beta tester(ver.0.7).
* THIS EXPERIMENTAL SERVER (agora at dna.affrc.go.jp)


A. References (from this document)
----------------------------------

[1] http://www.w3.org/TheProject.html
[2] http://www.boutell.com/faq/
[3] http://www.dna.affrc.go.jp/htdocs/Agora/OriginalHelp.txt
 (This is original help document that was written by W3 ORG)

Supplements
-----------
ALT.BINARIES.PICTURES UTILITIES ARCHIVE
http://mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu/%7Edeej/index.html
is much helpful,
if you would have not know how to unzip or uudecording the binary/ascii
encoding mail.


Acknowledgments
----------------
We appreciate to Arthur Secret(W3 ORG), Dr.Bob Rankin(BobRankin at mhv.net)
and Odd de Presno(presno at grida.no).
Brian J.Turk(Pimalco Aerospace Aluminum,Arizona USA) gave me useful
infomation.



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "nEO" <gentoo.cn at gmail.com>
To: "alang yin" <alang.yl at gmail.com>; <python-chinese at lists.python.cn>
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 2:02 PM
Subject: Re: [python-chinese] 我想在我的nokia n－gage手机上安装python


> 这个jam.zheng和那个NetKiller是在同一个公司吗？
> 都不能上网吗？
> 
> 在 05-6-29，alang yin<alang.yl at gmail.com> 写道：
> > 在Nokia的网站上下载一个sis文件，sis文件你应该清楚吧，这是symbian平台特有的安装文件格式。
> > 
> > 在这个页面：
> > http://www.forum.nokia.com/main/0,,034-821,00.html
> > 的右边中间的download里面,找PythonForSeries60_2end_sis.zip文件，下载。
> > 
> > 下回来后，把sis安装包传到手机上，在手机里面安装，就有了。
> > 
> > 至于SDK文件，那是作开发用的，是安装到pc机上的。
> > 
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方便的方法，早就有人想到了。（写程序当然还是在pc机上写得爽,SDK包中还有模拟器可以调试python程序呢）
1、你把.py文件传到手机中去了以后，直接在文件管理器运行它，就如同在pc机上双击py文件一样。前提是你的手机上要安装python环境。

2、把写好的py程序编译为sis安装文件，传到手机中安装后，就如同一个普通的手机程序，点图标就可以运行了。好处如果用户手机上没有python环境也没事。这个sis安装文件会自动把python环境包进去。如同pc机上的py2exe这个软件的功能一样。这个编译的工具在SDK包中有。