2005年07月21日 星期四 08:02
梅先生颇有些当年实业救国派的风范…… 佩服佩服! On 7/21/05, alongrun <catchbug at 163.com> wrote: > > 有些项目带头来提高国内python方面的影响力---同意 > 只要产品有前景,慢慢能够积累起人气。 > 这些还需要各位高手仔细分析。 > > > > ======= 2005-07-20 22:30:54 您在来信中写道:======= > > >我倒是觉得,需要真正有些项目带头来提高国内python方面的影响力.这个也是我发起Python-QQ的原因,是先发展在革命, > 还是先革命再发展.这个问题我想没有太大必要争论,作好自己的事情,切实为中国的python事业作出贡献,就已经足够了. > > > >另外使用python的人可能很多,但是真正把它当做一门语言来学习,作为自己的事业来发展的还是很少.道远而任重. > > > >在 05-7-19,Alex.Jao<jao.alex at gmail.com> 写道: > >> 我也注册了,用户名alex,我是新手,请大哥、大姐们多多提协!!! > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: python-chinese-bounces at lists.python.cn > >> [mailto:python-chinese-bounces at lists.python.cn] On Behalf Of limodou > >> Sent: 2005年7月19日 15:44 > >> To: python-chinese at lists.python.cn > >> Subject: Re: [python-chinese] Re: 我们需要的是整合,而不是分裂。 > >> > >> 我已经注册成功了。用户名 limodou > >> > >> 在 05-7-19,limodou<limodou at gmail.com> 写道: > >> > ???我还以为装在python.cn上了呢。 > >> > > >> > 2005/7/19, Gary Jia <gary at exoweb.net>: > >> > > http://www.woodpecker.org.cn/CPUG/join_form > >> > > > >> > > On 二, 2005-07-19 at 15:35 +0800, limodou wrote: > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > 完整的链接是什么呀? > >> > > > >> > > 在 05-7-19,nEO<gentoo.cn at gmail.com> 写道: > >> > > > 居然有不能注册的? > >> > > > 倒是经常见到人讨论如何把注册/join_form去掉呀 > >> > > > > >> > > > 2005/7/19, Gary Jia <gary at exoweb.net>: > >> > > > > > >> > > > > 可以了,在左边的登录表单下面有一个连接:"新用户?"。 > >> > > > > 点击即可注册。 > >> > > > > On 二, 2005-07-19 at 14:24 +0800, Zoom Quiet wrote: > >> > > > > > >> > > > > ??? > >> > > > > 唉呀呀??没有注意到………… > >> > > > > 我是新建的一个Plone site, > >> > > > > 怎么着?看这意思要设置什么东西才能开放注册的? > >> > > > > > >> > > > > 谁知道先吼一声……………… > >> > > > > > >> > > > > 在 05-7-19,张骏<zhangj at foreseen-info.com> 写道: > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > 嘿嘿。上面没有注册连接啊,要人肉输入 > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > 另外,俺是不是第一个注册的啊 > >> > > > > > ----------------------- Original Message > ----------------------- > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > From: Zoom Quiet <zoom.quiet at gmail.com> > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > To: Qiangning Hong <hongqn at gmail.com>, > >> > > > > python-chinese at lists.python.cn, "Python.cn at google" > >> > > > <python-cn at googlegroups.com>, > >> > > > > CPUG at googlegroups.com > >> > > > > > Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 13:07:33 +0800 > >> > > > > > Subject: Re: [python-chinese] Re: 我们需要的是整合,而不是分裂。 > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > >> > > > > > > 咳咳咳! > >> > > > > > > 快速创立! > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > http://www.woodpecker.org.cn/CPUG/ > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > 可怜的 IE ! 看到的 logo 背景就不是透明的好象……………… > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > 谁要管理?自个儿注册后涛乙簧; > >> > > > > > > 我就先指定一下, 开始定制吧………… > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > 嗬嗬…………真是迫不及待哪………… > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > 在 05-7-19,Qiangning Hong<hongqn at gmail.com> 写道: > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > 同意。这样各地的兄弟都可以进来看了。 > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > 等到有其他地域的PUG起来后,可以在信件标题上注明[BPUG]标明是北 > >> 京相关帖子 > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > On 7/19/05, limodou <limodou at gmail.com> wrote: > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > 那可以保cpug,bpug的去了得了。 > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > 在 05-7-19,Qiangning Hong< > >> > > > > hongqn at gmail.com> 写道: > >> > > > > > > > > > On 7/19/05, 张骏 <zhangj at foreseen-info.com > >> > > > > > wrote: > >> > > > > > > > > > > googlegroups 支持email客户端吗? > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > 支持,选择Email模式即可。 > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > CPUG和Python-chinese能同步吗? > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > 这个恐怕不能自动同步。 > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > 邮件列表太多了也不是好事。发帖子都麻烦啊 > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > 我觉得CPUG的邮件列表和python-chinese邮件列表应该有不同的功 > >> 能。 > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > CPUG的邮件应主要集中在活动组织和讨论上,而python-chinese应该是一个技术交 > >> 流空间。一般信件应该没必要两边都发,需要cross-posting的应该就是活动通知了。 > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > 邮件列表还是要专list专用,太繁杂了不好,用起来也不方便。 > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > 目前功能相重合的也就是python-chinese at lists.python.cn和 > >> limodou建的 > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > python-cn at googlegroups.com了。limodou建的这个列表是为python-chinese做备 > >> 份的,但是不是邮件备份,而是当python-chinese当掉时可以接着讨论的备份。 > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > 邮件备份有google和gmane.org帮我们存着, > >> > > > > 应该不用担心哪天没了的。 > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > -- > >> > > > > > > > > > Qiangning Hong > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > I'm usually annoyed by IDEs because, for instance, > they > >> don't > >> > > > use VIM > >> > > > > > > > > > as an editor. Since I'm hooked to that, all IDEs I've > used > >> so > >> > > > far have > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > failed to impress me. > >> > > > > > > > > > -- Sybren Stuvel @ c.l.python > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Get Firefox! < > >> > > > > > >> > > http://www.spreadfirefox.com/?q=affiliates&id;=67907&t;=1> > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > _______________________________________________ > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > python-chinese list > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > python-chinese at lists.python.cn > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > http://python.cn/mailman/listinfo/python-chinese > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > -- > >> > > > > > > > > I like python! > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > My Donews Blog: http://www.donews.net/limodou > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > New Google Maillist: > >> > > > http://groups-beta.google.com/group/python-cn > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > >> > > > > > > > > python-chinese list > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > python-chinese at lists.python.cn > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > http://python.cn/mailman/listinfo/python-chinese > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > -- > >> > > > > > > > Qiangning Hong > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > I'm usually annoyed by IDEs because, for instance, they > don't > >> use > >> > > > VIM > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > as an editor. Since I'm hooked to that, all IDEs I've > used so > >> far > >> > > > have > >> > > > > > > > failed to impress me. > >> > > > > > > > -- Sybren Stuvel @ > >> > > > > c.l.python > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Get Firefox! < > >> > > > > > >> > > http://www.spreadfirefox.com/?q=affiliates&id;=67907&t;=1> > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > python-chinese list > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > python-chinese at lists.python.cn > >> > > > > > > > http://python.cn/mailman/listinfo/python-chinese > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > -- > >> > > > > > > [Time is unimportant, only life important!] > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > --------------------- Original Message Ends > -------------------- > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > _______________________________________________ > >> > > > > > python-chinese list > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > python-chinese at lists.python.cn > >> > > > > > http://python.cn/mailman/listinfo/python-chinese > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > >> > > > > python-chinese list > >> > > > > > >> > > > > python-chinese at lists.python.cn > >> > > > > > >> > > > > http://python.cn/mailman/listinfo/python-chinese > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > >> > > > > python-chinese list > >> > > > > python-chinese at lists.python.cn > >> > > > > http://python.cn/mailman/listinfo/python-chinese > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > -- > >> > > > > >> > > > I'm the one, powered by nEO > >> > > > _______________________________________________ > >> > > > python-chinese list > >> > > > python-chinese at lists.python.cn > >> > > > http://python.cn/mailman/listinfo/python-chinese > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > _______________________________________________ > >> > > python-chinese list > >> > > python-chinese at lists.python.cn > >> > > http://python.cn/mailman/listinfo/python-chinese > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > -- > >> > I like python! > >> > My Donews Blog: http://www.donews.net/limodou > >> > New Google Maillist: http://groups-beta.google.com/group/python-cn > >> > > >> > >> > >> -- > >> I like python! > >> My Donews Blog: http://www.donews.net/limodou > >> New Google Maillist: http://groups-beta.google.com/group/python-cn > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> python-chinese list > >> python-chinese at lists.python.cn > >> http://python.cn/mailman/listinfo/python-chinese > >> > > > > > >-- > >梅劲松 > >_______________________________________________ > >python-chinese list > >python-chinese at lists.python.cn > >http://python.cn/mailman/listinfo/python-chinese > > > > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = > > > 致 > 礼! > > > alongrun > catchbug at 163.com > 2005-07-21 > > > _______________________________________________ > python-chinese list > python-chinese at lists.python.cn > http://python.cn/mailman/listinfo/python-chinese > > > -- ############################################# # "your future depends on your dreams." so go to sleep. # save water. shower with your girlfriend. # # Welcom2 : http//blog.csdn.net/auding1900/ ############################################# -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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2005年07月21日 星期四 09:33
把python当作事业?那事业也太小了吧!python只不过是一把斧头,一个镰刀而已。 在 05-7-21,Spirit Auding<auding at gmail.com> 写道: > 梅先生颇有些当年实业救国派的风范…… > 佩服佩服! > > > On 7/21/05, alongrun <catchbug at 163.com> wrote: > > > > 有些项目带头来提高国内python方面的影响力---同意 > > 只要产品有前景,慢慢能够积累起人气。 > > 这些还需要各位高手仔细分析。 > > > > > > > > ======= 2005-07-20 22:30:54 您在来信中写道:======= > > > > > >我倒是觉得,需要真正有些项目带头来提高国内python方面的影响力.这个也是我发起Python-QQ的原因,是先发展在革命,还是先革命再发展.这个问题我想没有太大必要争论 > ,作好自己的事情,切实为中国的python事业作出贡献,就已经足够了. > > > > > >另外使用python的人可能很多,但是真正把它当做一门语言来学习,作为自己的事业来发展的还是很少.道远而任重. > > > > > >在 05-7-19,Alex.Jao<jao.alex at gmail.com> 写道: > > >> 我也注册了,用户名alex,我是新手,请大哥、大姐们多多提协!!! > > >> > > >> -----Original Message----- > > >> From: python-chinese-bounces at lists.python.cn > > >> [mailto: python-chinese-bounces at lists.python.cn] On > Behalf Of limodou > > >> Sent: 2005年7月19日 15:44 > > >> To: python-chinese at lists.python.cn > > >> Subject: Re: [python-chinese] Re: 我们需要的是整合,而不是分裂。 > > >> > > >> 我已经注册成功了。用户名 limodou > > >> > > >> 在 05-7-19,limodou<limodou at gmail.com> 写道: > > >> > ???我还以为装在python.cn上了呢。 > > >> > > > >> > 2005/7/19, Gary Jia < gary at exoweb.net>: > > >> > > http://www.woodpecker.org.cn/CPUG/join_form > > >> > > > > >> > > On 二, 2005-07-19 at 15:35 +0800, limodou wrote: > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > 完整的链接是什么呀? > > >> > > > > >> > > 在 05-7-19,nEO<gentoo.cn at gmail.com> 写道: > > >> > > > 居然有不能注册的? > > >> > > > 倒是经常见到人讨论如何把注册/join_form去掉呀 > > >> > > > > > >> > > > 2005/7/19, Gary Jia <gary at exoweb.net>: > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > 可以了,在左边的登录表单下面有一个连接:"新用户?"。 > > >> > > > > 点击即可注册。 > > >> > > > > On 二, 2005-07-19 at 14:24 +0800, Zoom Quiet wrote: > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > ??? > > >> > > > > 唉呀呀??没有注意到………… > > >> > > > > 我是新建的一个Plone site, > > >> > > > > 怎么着?看这意思要设置什么东西才能开放注册的? > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > 谁知道先吼一声……………… > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > 在 05-7-19,张骏<zhangj at foreseen-info.com> 写道: > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > 嘿嘿。上面没有注册连接啊,要人肉输入 > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > 另外,俺是不是第一个注册的啊 > > >> > > > > > ----------------------- Original Message > ----------------------- > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > From: Zoom Quiet <zoom.quiet at gmail.com> > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > To: Qiangning Hong < hongqn at gmail.com>, > > >> > > > > python-chinese at lists.python.cn, "Python.cn at google" > > >> > > > < python-cn at googlegroups.com>, > > >> > > > > CPUG at googlegroups.com > > >> > > > > > Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 13:07:33 +0800 > > >> > > > > > Subject: Re: [python-chinese] Re: 我们需要的是整合,而不是分裂。 > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > > >> > > > > > > 咳咳咳! > > >> > > > > > > 快速创立! > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > http://www.woodpecker.org.cn/CPUG/ > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > 可怜的 IE ! 看到的 logo 背景就不是透明的好象……………… > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > 谁要管理?自个儿注册后涛乙簧; > > >> > > > > > > 我就先指定一下, 开始定制吧………… > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > 嗬嗬…………真是迫不及待哪………… > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > 在 05-7-19,Qiangning Hong<hongqn at gmail.com> 写道: > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > 同意。这样各地的兄弟都可以进来看了。 > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > 等到有其他地域的PUG起来后,可以在信件标题上注明[BPUG]标明是北 > > >> 京相关帖子 > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > On 7/19/05, limodou <limodou at gmail.com> wrote: > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > 那可以保cpug,bpug的去了得了。 > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > 在 05-7-19,Qiangning Hong< > > >> > > > > hongqn at gmail.com> 写道: > > >> > > > > > > > > > On 7/19/05, 张骏 <zhangj at foreseen-info.com > > >> > > > > > wrote: > > >> > > > > > > > > > > googlegroups 支持email客户端吗? > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > 支持,选择Email模式即可。 > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > CPUG和Python-chinese能同步吗? > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > 这个恐怕不能自动同步。 > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > 邮件列表太多了也不是好事。发帖子都麻烦啊 > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > 我觉得CPUG的邮件列表和python-chinese邮件列表应该有不同的功 > > >> 能。 > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > CPUG的邮件应主要集中在活动组织和讨论上,而python-chinese应该是一个技术交 > > >> 流空间。一般信件应该没必要两边都发,需要cross-posting的应该就是活动通知了。 > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > 邮件列表还是要专list专用,太繁杂了不好,用起来也不方便。 > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > 目前功能相重合的也就是python-chinese at lists.python.cn和 > > >> limodou建的 > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > python-cn at googlegroups.com了。limodou建的这个列表是为python-chinese做备 > > >> 份的,但是不是邮件备份,而是当python-chinese当掉时可以接着讨论的备份。 > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > 邮件备份有google和gmane.org帮我们存着, > > >> > > > > 应该不用担心哪天没了的。 > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > -- > > >> > > > > > > > > > Qiangning Hong > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > I'm usually annoyed by IDEs because, for instance, > they > > >> don't > > >> > > > use VIM > > >> > > > > > > > > > as an editor. Since I'm hooked to that, all IDEs I've > used > > >> so > > >> > > > far have > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > failed to impress me. > > >> > > > > > > > > > -- Sybren Stuvel @ c.l.python > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Get Firefox! < > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > http://www.spreadfirefox.com/?q=affiliates&id;=67907&t;=1> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > python-chinese list > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > python-chinese at lists.python.cn > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > http://python.cn/mailman/listinfo/python-chinese > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > >> > > > > > > > > I like python! > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > My Donews Blog: http://www.donews.net/limodou > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > New Google Maillist: > > >> > > > http://groups-beta.google.com/group/python-cn > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > >> > > > > > > > > python-chinese list > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > python-chinese at lists.python.cn > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > http://python.cn/mailman/listinfo/python-chinese > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > -- > > >> > > > > > > > Qiangning Hong > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > I'm usually annoyed by IDEs because, for instance, they > don't > > >> use > > >> > > > VIM > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > as an editor. Since I'm hooked to that, all IDEs I've > used so > > >> far > > >> > > > have > > >> > > > > > > > failed to impress me. > > >> > > > > > > > -- Sybren Stuvel @ > > >> > > > > c.l.python > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Get Firefox! < > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > http://www.spreadfirefox.com/?q=affiliates&id;=67907&t;=1> > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > python-chinese list > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > python-chinese at lists.python.cn > > >> > > > > > > > > http://python.cn/mailman/listinfo/python-chinese > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > -- > > >> > > > > > > [Time is unimportant, only life important!] > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > --------------------- Original Message Ends > -------------------- > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > >> > > > > > python-chinese list > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > python-chinese at lists.python.cn > > >> > > > > > > http://python.cn/mailman/listinfo/python-chinese > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > >> > > > > python-chinese list > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > python-chinese at lists.python.cn > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > http://python.cn/mailman/listinfo/python-chinese > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > >> > > > > python-chinese list > > >> > > > > python-chinese at lists.python.cn > > >> > > > > > http://python.cn/mailman/listinfo/python-chinese > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > -- > > >> > > > > > >> > > > I'm the one, powered by nEO > > >> > > > _______________________________________________ > > >> > > > python-chinese list > > >> > > > python-chinese at lists.python.cn > > >> > > > http://python.cn/mailman/listinfo/python-chinese > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > >> > > python-chinese list > > >> > > python-chinese at lists.python.cn > > >> > > http://python.cn/mailman/listinfo/python-chinese > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > -- > > >> > I like python! > > >> > My Donews Blog: http://www.donews.net/limodou > > >> > New Google Maillist: > http://groups-beta.google.com/group/python-cn > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> -- > > >> I like python! > > >> My Donews Blog: http://www.donews.net/limodou > > >> New Google Maillist: > http://groups-beta.google.com/group/python-cn > > >> > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> python-chinese list > > >> python-chinese at lists.python.cn > > >> http://python.cn/mailman/listinfo/python-chinese > > >> > > > > > > > > >-- > > >梅劲松 > > >_______________________________________________ > > >python-chinese list > > >python-chinese at lists.python.cn > > >http://python.cn/mailman/listinfo/python-chinese > > > > > > > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = > > > > > > 致 > > 礼! > > > > > > alongrun > > catchbug at 163.com > > 2005-07-21 > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > python-chinese list > > python-chinese at lists.python.cn > > http://python.cn/mailman/listinfo/python-chinese > > > > > > > > > > -- > ############################################# > # "your future depends on your dreams." so go to sleep. > # save water. shower with your girlfriend. > # > # Welcom2 : http//blog.csdn.net/auding1900/ > ############################################# > _______________________________________________ > python-chinese list > python-chinese at lists.python.cn > http://python.cn/mailman/listinfo/python-chinese > > >
2005年07月21日 星期四 10:33
Python为什么不能当作事业,当年还有拿Basic当作事业的呢,那老兄的奋斗目标无非就是做一个可以放在4096字节空间的Basic…… 松下电器是卖插座开始的,Nokia是砍木头起家的,事业无大小,谋事在人,成事在天。何况现在Python是动态语言新贵,连MS和IBM这样的巨头都对它另眼相看,再当Python是小玩意也太后知后觉了。 在05-7-21,nicran <nicran at gmail.com> 写道: > > 把python当作事业?那事业也太小了吧!python只不过是一把斧头,一个镰刀而已。 > > 在 05-7-21,Spirit Auding<auding at gmail.com> 写道: > > 梅先生颇有些当年实业救国派的风范…… > > 佩服佩服! > > > > > > On 7/21/05, alongrun <catchbug at 163.com> wrote: > > > > > > 有些项目带头来提高国内python方面的影响力---同意 > > > 只要产品有前景,慢慢能够积累起人气。 > > > 这些还需要各位高手仔细分析。 > > > > > > > > > > > > ======= 2005-07-20 22:30:54 您在来信中写道:======= > > > > > > > > >我倒是觉得,需要真正有些项目带头来提高国内python方面的影响力.这个也是我发起Python-QQ的原因,是先发展在革命, > 还是先革命再发展.这个问题我想没有太大必要争论 > > ,作好自己的事情,切实为中国的python事业作出贡献,就已经足够了. > > > > > > > >另外使用python的人可能很多,但是真正把它当做一门语言来学习,作为自己的事业来发展的还是很少.道远而任重. > > > > > > > >在 05-7-19,Alex.Jao<jao.alex at gmail.com> 写道: > > > >> 我也注册了,用户名alex,我是新手,请大哥、大姐们多多提协!!! > > > >> > > > >> -----Original Message----- > > > >> From: python-chinese-bounces at lists.python.cn > > > >> [mailto: python-chinese-bounces at lists.python.cn] On > > Behalf Of limodou > > > >> Sent: 2005年7月19日 15:44 > > > >> To: python-chinese at lists.python.cn > > > >> Subject: Re: [python-chinese] Re: 我们需要的是整合,而不是分裂。 > > > >> > > > >> 我已经注册成功了。用户名 limodou > > > >> > > > >> 在 05-7-19,limodou<limodou at gmail.com> 写道: > > > >> > ???我还以为装在python.cn上了呢。 > > > >> > > > > >> > 2005/7/19, Gary Jia < gary at exoweb.net>: > > > >> > > http://www.woodpecker.org.cn/CPUG/join_form > > > >> > > > > > >> > > On 二, 2005-07-19 at 15:35 +0800, limodou wrote: > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > 完整的链接是什么呀? > > > >> > > > > > >> > > 在 05-7-19,nEO<gentoo.cn at gmail.com> 写道: > > > >> > > > 居然有不能注册的? > > > >> > > > 倒是经常见到人讨论如何把注册/join_form去掉呀 > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > 2005/7/19, Gary Jia <gary at exoweb.net>: > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > 可以了,在左边的登录表单下面有一个连接:"新用户?"。 > > > >> > > > > 点击即可注册。 > > > >> > > > > On 二, 2005-07-19 at 14:24 +0800, Zoom Quiet wrote: > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > ??? > > > >> > > > > 唉呀呀??没有注意到………… > > > >> > > > > 我是新建的一个Plone site, > > > >> > > > > 怎么着?看这意思要设置什么东西才能开放注册的? > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > 谁知道先吼一声……………… > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > 在 05-7-19,张骏<zhangj at foreseen-info.com> 写道: > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > 嘿嘿。上面没有注册连接啊,要人肉输入 > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > 另外,俺是不是第一个注册的啊 > > > >> > > > > > ----------------------- Original Message > > ----------------------- > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > From: Zoom Quiet <zoom.quiet at gmail.com> > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > To: Qiangning Hong < hongqn at gmail.com>, > > > >> > > > > python-chinese at lists.python.cn, "Python.cn at google" > > > >> > > > < python-cn at googlegroups.com>, > > > >> > > > > CPUG at googlegroups.com > > > >> > > > > > Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 13:07:33 +0800 > > > >> > > > > > Subject: Re: [python-chinese] Re: 我们需要的是整合,而不是分裂。 > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > > > >> > > > > > > 咳咳咳! > > > >> > > > > > > 快速创立! > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > http://www.woodpecker.org.cn/CPUG/ > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > 可怜的 IE ! 看到的 logo 背景就不是透明的好象……………… > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > 谁要管理?自个儿注册后涛乙簧; > > > >> > > > > > > 我就先指定一下, 开始定制吧………… > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > 嗬嗬…………真是迫不及待哪………… > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > 在 05-7-19,Qiangning Hong<hongqn at gmail.com> 写道: > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > 同意。这样各地的兄弟都可以进来看了。 > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > 等到有其他地域的PUG起来后,可以在信件标题上注明[BPUG]标明是北 > > > >> 京相关帖子 > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > On 7/19/05, limodou <limodou at gmail.com> wrote: > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > 那可以保cpug,bpug的去了得了。 > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > 在 05-7-19,Qiangning Hong< > > > >> > > > > hongqn at gmail.com> 写道: > > > >> > > > > > > > > > On 7/19/05, 张骏 <zhangj at foreseen-info.com > > > >> > > > > > wrote: > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > googlegroups 支持email客户端吗? > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > 支持,选择Email模式即可。 > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > CPUG和Python-chinese能同步吗? > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > 这个恐怕不能自动同步。 > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > 邮件列表太多了也不是好事。发帖子都麻烦啊 > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > 我觉得CPUG的邮件列表和python-chinese邮件列表应该有不同的功 > > > >> 能。 > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > CPUG的邮件应主要集中在活动组织和讨论上,而python-chinese应该是一个技术交 > > > >> 流空间。一般信件应该没必要两边都发,需要cross-posting的应该就是活动通知了。 > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > 邮件列表还是要专list专用,太繁杂了不好,用起来也不方便。 > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > 目前功能相重合的也就是python-chinese at lists.python.cn和 > > > >> limodou建的 > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > python-cn at googlegroups.com了。limodou建的这个列表是为python-chinese做备 > > > >> 份的,但是不是邮件备份,而是当python-chinese当掉时可以接着讨论的备份。 > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > 邮件备份有google和gmane.org帮我们存着, > > > >> > > > > 应该不用担心哪天没了的。 > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > -- > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Qiangning Hong > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > I'm usually annoyed by IDEs because, for > instance, > > they > > > >> don't > > > >> > > > use VIM > > > >> > > > > > > > > > as an editor. Since I'm hooked to that, all IDEs > I've > > used > > > >> so > > > >> > > > far have > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > failed to impress me. > > > >> > > > > > > > > > -- Sybren Stuvel @ c.l.python > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Get Firefox! < > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > http://www.spreadfirefox.com/?q=affiliates&id;=67907&t;=1> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > python-chinese list > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > python-chinese at lists.python.cn > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > http://python.cn/mailman/listinfo/python-chinese > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > > >> > > > > > > > > I like python! > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > My Donews Blog: http://www.donews.net/limodou > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > New Google Maillist: > > > >> > > > http://groups-beta.google.com/group/python-cn > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > >> > > > > > > > > python-chinese list > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > python-chinese at lists.python.cn > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > http://python.cn/mailman/listinfo/python-chinese > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > -- > > > >> > > > > > > > Qiangning Hong > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > I'm usually annoyed by IDEs because, for instance, > they > > don't > > > >> use > > > >> > > > VIM > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > as an editor. Since I'm hooked to that, all IDEs I've > > used so > > > >> far > > > >> > > > have > > > >> > > > > > > > failed to impress me. > > > >> > > > > > > > -- Sybren Stuvel @ > > > >> > > > > c.l.python > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Get Firefox! < > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > http://www.spreadfirefox.com/?q=affiliates&id;=67907&t;=1> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > python-chinese list > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > python-chinese at lists.python.cn > > > >> > > > > > > > > > http://python.cn/mailman/listinfo/python-chinese > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > -- > > > >> > > > > > > [Time is unimportant, only life important!] > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > --------------------- Original Message Ends > > -------------------- > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > >> > > > > > python-chinese list > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > python-chinese at lists.python.cn > > > >> > > > > > > > http://python.cn/mailman/listinfo/python-chinese > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > >> > > > > python-chinese list > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > python-chinese at lists.python.cn > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > http://python.cn/mailman/listinfo/python-chinese > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > >> > > > > python-chinese list > > > >> > > > > python-chinese at lists.python.cn > > > >> > > > > > > http://python.cn/mailman/listinfo/python-chinese > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > -- > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > I'm the one, powered by nEO > > > >> > > > _______________________________________________ > > > >> > > > python-chinese list > > > >> > > > python-chinese at lists.python.cn > > > >> > > > http://python.cn/mailman/listinfo/python-chinese > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > > >> > > python-chinese list > > > >> > > python-chinese at lists.python.cn > > > >> > > http://python.cn/mailman/listinfo/python-chinese > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > -- > > > >> > I like python! > > > >> > My Donews Blog: http://www.donews.net/limodou > > > >> > New Google Maillist: > > http://groups-beta.google.com/group/python-cn > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> -- > > > >> I like python! > > > >> My Donews Blog: http://www.donews.net/limodou > > > >> New Google Maillist: > > http://groups-beta.google.com/group/python-cn > > > >> > > > >> _______________________________________________ > > > >> python-chinese list > > > >> python-chinese at lists.python.cn > > > >> http://python.cn/mailman/listinfo/python-chinese > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >-- > > > >梅劲松 > > > >_______________________________________________ > > > >python-chinese list > > > >python-chinese at lists.python.cn > > > >http://python.cn/mailman/listinfo/python-chinese > > > > > > > > > > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = > > > > > > > > > 致 > > > 礼! > > > > > > > > > alongrun > > > catchbug at 163.com > > > 2005-07-21 > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > python-chinese list > > > python-chinese at lists.python.cn > > > http://python.cn/mailman/listinfo/python-chinese > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > ############################################# > > # "your future depends on your dreams." so go to sleep. > > # save water. shower with your girlfriend. > > # > > # Welcom2 : http//blog.csdn.net/auding1900/ > > ############################################# > > _______________________________________________ > > python-chinese list > > python-chinese at lists.python.cn > > http://python.cn/mailman/listinfo/python-chinese > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > python-chinese list > python-chinese at lists.python.cn > http://python.cn/mailman/listinfo/python-chinese > > > -- 欢迎访问: http://blog.csdn.net/ccat 刘鑫 March.Liu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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说事业好象是有点夸大,实现事业的斧头和镰刀吧。 在 05-7-21,nicran<nicran at gmail.com> 写道: > 把python当作事业?那事业也太小了吧!python只不过是一把斧头,一个镰刀而已。 > > 在 05-7-21,Spirit Auding<auding at gmail.com> 写道: > > 梅先生颇有些当年实业救国派的风范…… > > 佩服佩服! > > > > > > On 7/21/05, alongrun <catchbug at 163.com> wrote: > > > > > > 有些项目带头来提高国内python方面的影响力---同意 > > > 只要产品有前景,慢慢能够积累起人气。 > > > 这些还需要各位高手仔细分析。 > > > > > > > > > > > > ======= 2005-07-20 22:30:54 您在来信中写道:======= > > > > > > > > >我倒是觉得,需要真正有些项目带头来提高国内python方面的影响力.这个也是我发起Python-QQ的原因,是先发展在革命,还是先革命再发展.这个问题我想没有太大必要争论 > > ,作好自己的事情,切实为中国的python事业作出贡献,就已经足够了. > > > > > > > >另外使用python的人可能很多,但是真正把它当做一门语言来学习,作为自己的事业来发展的还是很少.道远而任重. > > > > > > > >在 05-7-19,Alex.Jao<jao.alex at gmail.com> 写道: > > > >> 我也注册了,用户名alex,我是新手,请大哥、大姐们多多提协!!! > > > >> > > > >> -----Original Message----- > > > >> From: python-chinese-bounces at lists.python.cn > > > >> [mailto: python-chinese-bounces at lists.python.cn] On > > Behalf Of limodou > > > >> Sent: 2005年7月19日 15:44 > > > >> To: python-chinese at lists.python.cn > > > >> Subject: Re: [python-chinese] Re: 我们需要的是整合,而不是分裂。 > > > >> > > > >> 我已经注册成功了。用户名 limodou > > > >> > > > >> 在 05-7-19,limodou<limodou at gmail.com> 写道: > > > >> > ???我还以为装在python.cn上了呢。 > > > >> > > > > >> > 2005/7/19, Gary Jia < gary at exoweb.net>: > > > >> > > http://www.woodpecker.org.cn/CPUG/join_form > > > >> > > > > > >> > > On 二, 2005-07-19 at 15:35 +0800, limodou wrote: > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > 完整的链接是什么呀? > > > >> > > > > > >> > > 在 05-7-19,nEO<gentoo.cn at gmail.com> 写道: > > > >> > > > 居然有不能注册的? > > > >> > > > 倒是经常见到人讨论如何把注册/join_form去掉呀 > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > 2005/7/19, Gary Jia <gary at exoweb.net>: > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > 可以了,在左边的登录表单下面有一个连接:"新用户?"。 > > > >> > > > > 点击即可注册。 > > > >> > > > > On 二, 2005-07-19 at 14:24 +0800, Zoom Quiet wrote: > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > ??? > > > >> > > > > 唉呀呀??没有注意到………… > > > >> > > > > 我是新建的一个Plone site, > > > >> > > > > 怎么着?看这意思要设置什么东西才能开放注册的? > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > 谁知道先吼一声……………… > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > 在 05-7-19,张骏<zhangj at foreseen-info.com> 写道: > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > 嘿嘿。上面没有注册连接啊,要人肉输入 > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > 另外,俺是不是第一个注册的啊 > > > >> > > > > > ----------------------- Original Message > > ----------------------- > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > From: Zoom Quiet <zoom.quiet at gmail.com> > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > To: Qiangning Hong < hongqn at gmail.com>, > > > >> > > > > python-chinese at lists.python.cn, "Python.cn at google" > > > >> > > > < python-cn at googlegroups.com>, > > > >> > > > > CPUG at googlegroups.com > > > >> > > > > > Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 13:07:33 +0800 > > > >> > > > > > Subject: Re: [python-chinese] Re: 我们需要的是整合,而不是分裂。 > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > > > >> > > > > > > 咳咳咳! > > > >> > > > > > > 快速创立! > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > http://www.woodpecker.org.cn/CPUG/ > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > 可怜的 IE ! 看到的 logo 背景就不是透明的好象……………… > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > 谁要管理?自个儿注册后涛乙簧; > > > >> > > > > > > 我就先指定一下, 开始定制吧………… > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > 嗬嗬…………真是迫不及待哪………… > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > 在 05-7-19,Qiangning Hong<hongqn at gmail.com> 写道: > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > 同意。这样各地的兄弟都可以进来看了。 > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > 等到有其他地域的PUG起来后,可以在信件标题上注明[BPUG]标明是北 > > > >> 京相关帖子 > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > On 7/19/05, limodou <limodou at gmail.com> wrote: > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > 那可以保cpug,bpug的去了得了。 > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > 在 05-7-19,Qiangning Hong< > > > >> > > > > hongqn at gmail.com> 写道: > > > >> > > > > > > > > > On 7/19/05, 张骏 <zhangj at foreseen-info.com > > > >> > > > > > wrote: > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > googlegroups 支持email客户端吗? > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > 支持,选择Email模式即可。 > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > CPUG和Python-chinese能同步吗? > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > 这个恐怕不能自动同步。 > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > 邮件列表太多了也不是好事。发帖子都麻烦啊 > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > 我觉得CPUG的邮件列表和python-chinese邮件列表应该有不同的功 > > > >> 能。 > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > CPUG的邮件应主要集中在活动组织和讨论上,而python-chinese应该是一个技术交 > > > >> 流空间。一般信件应该没必要两边都发,需要cross-posting的应该就是活动通知了。 > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > 邮件列表还是要专list专用,太繁杂了不好,用起来也不方便。 > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > 目前功能相重合的也就是python-chinese at lists.python.cn和 > > > >> limodou建的 > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > python-cn at googlegroups.com了。limodou建的这个列表是为python-chinese做备 > > > >> 份的,但是不是邮件备份,而是当python-chinese当掉时可以接着讨论的备份。 > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > 邮件备份有google和gmane.org帮我们存着, > > > >> > > > > 应该不用担心哪天没了的。 > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > -- > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Qiangning Hong > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > I'm usually annoyed by IDEs because, for instance, > > they > > > >> don't > > > >> > > > use VIM > > > >> > > > > > > > > > as an editor. Since I'm hooked to that, all IDEs I've > > used > > > >> so > > > >> > > > far have > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > failed to impress me. > > > >> > > > > > > > > > -- Sybren Stuvel @ c.l.python > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Get Firefox! < > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > http://www.spreadfirefox.com/?q=affiliates&id;=67907&t;=1> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > python-chinese list > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > python-chinese at lists.python.cn > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > http://python.cn/mailman/listinfo/python-chinese > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > > >> > > > > > > > > I like python! > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > My Donews Blog: http://www.donews.net/limodou > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > New Google Maillist: > > > >> > > > http://groups-beta.google.com/group/python-cn > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > >> > > > > > > > > python-chinese list > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > python-chinese at lists.python.cn > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > http://python.cn/mailman/listinfo/python-chinese > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > -- > > > >> > > > > > > > Qiangning Hong > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > I'm usually annoyed by IDEs because, for instance, they > > don't > > > >> use > > > >> > > > VIM > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > as an editor. Since I'm hooked to that, all IDEs I've > > used so > > > >> far > > > >> > > > have > > > >> > > > > > > > failed to impress me. > > > >> > > > > > > > -- Sybren Stuvel @ > > > >> > > > > c.l.python > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Get Firefox! < > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > http://www.spreadfirefox.com/?q=affiliates&id;=67907&t;=1> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > python-chinese list > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > python-chinese at lists.python.cn > > > >> > > > > > > > > > http://python.cn/mailman/listinfo/python-chinese > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > -- > > > >> > > > > > > [Time is unimportant, only life important!] > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > --------------------- Original Message Ends > > -------------------- > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > >> > > > > > python-chinese list > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > python-chinese at lists.python.cn > > > >> > > > > > > > http://python.cn/mailman/listinfo/python-chinese > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > >> > > > > python-chinese list > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > python-chinese at lists.python.cn > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > http://python.cn/mailman/listinfo/python-chinese > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > >> > > > > python-chinese list > > > >> > > > > python-chinese at lists.python.cn > > > >> > > > > > > http://python.cn/mailman/listinfo/python-chinese > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > -- > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > I'm the one, powered by nEO > > > >> > > > _______________________________________________ > > > >> > > > python-chinese list > > > >> > > > python-chinese at lists.python.cn > > > >> > > > http://python.cn/mailman/listinfo/python-chinese > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > > >> > > python-chinese list > > > >> > > python-chinese at lists.python.cn > > > >> > > http://python.cn/mailman/listinfo/python-chinese > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > -- > > > >> > I like python! > > > >> > My Donews Blog: http://www.donews.net/limodou > > > >> > New Google Maillist: > > http://groups-beta.google.com/group/python-cn > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> -- > > > >> I like python! > > > >> My Donews Blog: http://www.donews.net/limodou > > > >> New Google Maillist: > > http://groups-beta.google.com/group/python-cn > > > >> > > > >> _______________________________________________ > > > >> python-chinese list > > > >> python-chinese at lists.python.cn > > > >> http://python.cn/mailman/listinfo/python-chinese > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >-- > > > >梅劲松 > > > >_______________________________________________ > > > >python-chinese list > > > >python-chinese at lists.python.cn > > > >http://python.cn/mailman/listinfo/python-chinese > > > > > > > > > > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = > > > > > > > > > 致 > > > 礼! > > > > > > > > > alongrun > > > catchbug at 163.com > > > 2005-07-21 > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > python-chinese list > > > python-chinese at lists.python.cn > > > http://python.cn/mailman/listinfo/python-chinese > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > ############################################# > > # "your future depends on your dreams." so go to sleep. > > # save water. shower with your girlfriend. > > # > > # Welcom2 : http//blog.csdn.net/auding1900/ > > ############################################# > > _______________________________________________ > > python-chinese list > > python-chinese at lists.python.cn > > http://python.cn/mailman/listinfo/python-chinese > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > python-chinese list > python-chinese at lists.python.cn > http://python.cn/mailman/listinfo/python-chinese > > > -- 梅劲松
2005年07月21日 星期四 10:41
呵呵, 很确切。 不过我觉得梅先生想表达的意思应该是潜心研究Python的人, 留心Python动态,从而可以用Python相关技术提出各种解决方案者。或者更加深 入, 参与进化Python的基础结构与平台拓展。 这两样事情(人)都需要工夫,也 可长久受益。 nicran wrote: >把python当作事业?那事业也太小了吧!python只不过是一把斧头,一个镰刀而已。 > >在 05-7-21,Spirit Auding<auding at gmail.com> 写道: > > >>梅先生颇有些当年实业救国派的风范…… >>佩服佩服! >> >> >>On 7/21/05, alongrun <catchbug at 163.com> wrote: >> >> >>>有些项目带头来提高国内python方面的影响力---同意 >>>只要产品有前景,慢慢能够积累起人气。 >>>这些还需要各位高手仔细分析。 >>> >>> >>> >>>======= 2005-07-20 22:30:54 您在来信中写道:======= >>> >>> >>>我倒是觉得,需要真正有些项目带头来提高国内python方面的影响力.这个也是我发起Python-QQ的原因,是先发展在革命,还是先革命再发展.这个问题我想没有太大必要争论 >>> >>> >>,作好自己的事情,切实为中国的python事业作出贡献,就已经足够了. >> >> >>>>另外使用python的人可能很多,但是真正把它当做一门语言来学习,作为自己的事业来发展的还是很少.道远而任重. >>>> >>>>在 05-7-19,Alex.Jao<jao.alex at gmail.com> 写道: >>>> >>>> >>>>>我也注册了,用户名alex,我是新手,请大哥、大姐们多多提协!!! >>>>> >>>>>-----Original Message----- >>>>>From: python-chinese-bounces at lists.python.cn >>>>>[mailto: python-chinese-bounces at lists.python.cn] On >>>>> >>>>> >>Behalf Of limodou >> >> >>>>>Sent: 2005年7月19日 15:44 >>>>>To: python-chinese at lists.python.cn >>>>>Subject: Re: [python-chinese] Re: 我们需要的是整合,而不是分裂。 >>>>> >>>>>我已经注册成功了。用户名 limodou >>>>> >>>>>在 05-7-19,limodou<limodou at gmail.com> 写道: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>???我还以为装在python.cn上了呢。 >>>>>> >>>>>>2005/7/19, Gary Jia < gary at exoweb.net>: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> http://www.woodpecker.org.cn/CPUG/join_form >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 二, 2005-07-19 at 15:35 +0800, limodou wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>完整的链接是什么呀? >>>>>>> >>>>>>>在 05-7-19,nEO<gentoo.cn at gmail.com> 写道: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>居然有不能注册的? >>>>>>>>倒是经常见到人讨论如何把注册/join_form去掉呀 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>2005/7/19, Gary Jia <gary at exoweb.net>: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>可以了,在左边的登录表单下面有一个连接:"新用户?"。 >>>>>>>>>点击即可注册。 >>>>>>>>>On 二, 2005-07-19 at 14:24 +0800, Zoom Quiet wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>??? >>>>>>>>>唉呀呀??没有注意到………… >>>>>>>>>我是新建的一个Plone site, >>>>>>>>>怎么着?看这意思要设置什么东西才能开放注册的? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>谁知道先吼一声……………… >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>在 05-7-19,张骏<zhangj at foreseen-info.com> 写道: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>嘿嘿。上面没有注册连接啊,要人肉输入 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>另外,俺是不是第一个注册的啊 >>>>>>>>>>----------------------- Original Message >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>----------------------- >> >> >>>>>>>>>>From: Zoom Quiet <zoom.quiet at gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>To: Qiangning Hong < hongqn at gmail.com>, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>python-chinese at lists.python.cn, "Python.cn at google" >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>< python-cn at googlegroups.com>, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>CPUG at googlegroups.com >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 13:07:33 +0800 >>>>>>>>>>Subject: Re: [python-chinese] Re: 我们需要的是整合,而不是分裂。 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>---------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>咳咳咳! >>>>>>>>>>>快速创立! >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>http://www.woodpecker.org.cn/CPUG/ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>可怜的 IE ! 看到的 logo 背景就不是透明的好象……………… >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>谁要管理?自个儿注册后涛乙簧; >>>>>>>>>>>我就先指定一下, 开始定制吧………… >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>嗬嗬…………真是迫不及待哪………… >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>在 05-7-19,Qiangning Hong<hongqn at gmail.com> 写道: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>同意。这样各地的兄弟都可以进来看了。 >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>等到有其他地域的PUG起来后,可以在信件标题上注明[BPUG]标明是北 >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>京相关帖子 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>On 7/19/05, limodou <limodou at gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>那可以保cpug,bpug的去了得了。 >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>在 05-7-19,Qiangning Hong< >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>hongqn at gmail.com> 写道: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>On 7/19/05, 张骏 <zhangj at foreseen-info.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>googlegroups 支持email客户端吗? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>支持,选择Email模式即可。 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>CPUG和Python-chinese能同步吗? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>这个恐怕不能自动同步。 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>邮件列表太多了也不是好事。发帖子都麻烦啊 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>我觉得CPUG的邮件列表和python-chinese邮件列表应该有不同的功 >> >> >>>>>能。 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>CPUG的邮件应主要集中在活动组织和讨论上,而python-chinese应该是一个技术交 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>流空间。一般信件应该没必要两边都发,需要cross-posting的应该就是活动通知了。 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>邮件列表还是要专list专用,太繁杂了不好,用起来也不方便。 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>目前功能相重合的也就是python-chinese at lists.python.cn和 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>limodou建的 >>>>> >>>>> >>python-cn at googlegroups.com了。limodou建的这个列表是为python-chinese做备 >> >> >>>>>份的,但是不是邮件备份,而是当python-chinese当掉时可以接着讨论的备份。 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>邮件备份有google和gmane.org帮我们存着, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>应该不用担心哪天没了的。 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>-- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>Qiangning Hong >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>I'm usually annoyed by IDEs because, for instance, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>they >> >> >>>>>don't >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>>use VIM >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>as an editor. Since I'm hooked to that, all IDEs I've >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>used >> >> >>>>>so >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>>far have >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>failed to impress me. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>-- Sybren Stuvel @ c.l.python >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>Get Firefox! < >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>http://www.spreadfirefox.com/?q=affiliates&id;=67907&t;=1> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>python-chinese list >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>python-chinese at lists.python.cn >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>http://python.cn/mailman/listinfo/python-chinese >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>-- >>>>>>>>>>>>>I like python! >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>My Donews Blog: http://www.donews.net/limodou >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>New Google Maillist: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>http://groups-beta.google.com/group/python-cn >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>_______________________________________________ >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>python-chinese list >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>python-chinese at lists.python.cn >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>http://python.cn/mailman/listinfo/python-chinese >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>-- >>>>>>>>>>>>Qiangning Hong >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>I'm usually annoyed by IDEs because, for instance, they >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>don't >> >> >>>>>use >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>>VIM >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>as an editor. Since I'm hooked to that, all IDEs I've >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>used so >> >> >>>>>far >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>>have >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>failed to impress me. >>>>>>>>>>>>-- Sybren Stuvel @ >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>c.l.python >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>Get Firefox! < >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>http://www.spreadfirefox.com/?q=affiliates&id;=67907&t;=1> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>_______________________________________________ >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>python-chinese list >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>python-chinese at lists.python.cn >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>http://python.cn/mailman/listinfo/python-chinese >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>-- >>>>>>>>>>>[Time is unimportant, only life important!] >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>--------------------- Original Message Ends >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>-------------------- >> >> >>_______________________________________________ >> >> >>>>>>>>>>python-chinese list >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>python-chinese at lists.python.cn >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>http://python.cn/mailman/listinfo/python-chinese >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>_______________________________________________ >> >> >>>>>>>>>python-chinese list >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>python-chinese at lists.python.cn >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>http://python.cn/mailman/listinfo/python-chinese >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>_______________________________________________ >> >> >>>>>>>>>python-chinese list >>>>>>>>>python-chinese at lists.python.cn >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>http://python.cn/mailman/listinfo/python-chinese >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>-- >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>I'm the one, powered by nEO >>>>>>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>python-chinese list >>>>>>>>python-chinese at lists.python.cn >>>>>>>>http://python.cn/mailman/listinfo/python-chinese >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>>>>python-chinese list >>>>>>>python-chinese at lists.python.cn >>>>>>>http://python.cn/mailman/listinfo/python-chinese >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>-- >>>>>>I like python! >>>>>>My Donews Blog: http://www.donews.net/limodou >>>>>>New Google Maillist: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>http://groups-beta.google.com/group/python-cn >> >> >>>>>-- >>>>>I like python! >>>>>My Donews Blog: http://www.donews.net/limodou >>>>>New Google Maillist: >>>>> >>>>> >>http://groups-beta.google.com/group/python-cn >> >> >>>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>>python-chinese list >>>>>python-chinese at lists.python.cn >>>>>http://python.cn/mailman/listinfo/python-chinese >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>-- >>>>梅劲松 >>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>python-chinese list >>>>python-chinese at lists.python.cn >>>>http://python.cn/mailman/listinfo/python-chinese >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = >>> >>> >>>致 >>>礼! >>> >>> >>>alongrun >>>catchbug at 163.com >>>2005-07-21 >>> >>> >>>_______________________________________________ >>>python-chinese list >>>python-chinese at lists.python.cn >>>http://python.cn/mailman/listinfo/python-chinese >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >>-- >>############################################# >># "your future depends on your dreams." so go to sleep. >># save water. shower with your girlfriend. >># >># Welcom2 : http//blog.csdn.net/auding1900/ >>############################################# >>_______________________________________________ >>python-chinese list >>python-chinese at lists.python.cn >>http://python.cn/mailman/listinfo/python-chinese >> >> >> >> >> >>------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >>_______________________________________________ >>python-chinese list >>python-chinese at lists.python.cn >>http://python.cn/mailman/listinfo/python-chinese >> >>
2005年07月21日 星期四 10:52
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2005年07月21日 星期四 11:07
别老拿国情说事儿,中国做"小事"成功的大有人在 ,等到别人成功后再酸溜溜的说"想当年我也……"就太可笑了。就拿Python做事业又怎么样,事无大小,机会对于旁观者总是遥不可及。 在05-7-21,Neo Chan (netkiller) <neo.chen at achievo.com> 写道: > > """ > 松下电器是卖插座开始的,Nokia是砍木头起家的,事业无大小,谋事在人,成事在天。 > """ > 国情不同,你在中国砍木头,你还是砍木头的... > > Neo Chan (netkiller) > Best Regards, 73! de BG7NYT > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.exoweb.net/pipermail/python-chinese/attachments/20050721/93e6b870/attachment.html
2005年07月21日 星期四 12:04
不认同这种说法,中国也有很多人的成就不是在本行上。 一条道走到黑,只能说明努力的还不够。 不要动不动就说国情,国情究竟是怎样,你也未必说得清楚。 -----Original Message----- From: python-chinese-bounces at lists.python.cn [mailto:python-chinese-bounces at lists.python.cn]On Behalf Of Neo Chan (netkiller) Sent: 2005年7月21日 10:53 To: 'March Liu'; python-chinese at lists.python.cn Subject: (瑞星提示-此邮件可能是垃圾邮件)RE: Re: [python-chinese] Re: 我们 需要的是整合 ,而不是分裂。 """ 松下电器是卖插座开始的,Nokia是砍木头起家的,事业无大小,谋事在人,成事在 天。 """ 国情不同,你在中国砍木头,你还是砍木头的... Neo Chan (netkiller) Best Regards, 73! de BG7NYT Personal Amateur Radiostations of P.R.China CQ24 ITU44 ShenZhen,China Amateur Radio Callsign: BG7NYT TRX: YAEUS FT-60R Dual Band(144-430) WATTS: 0.5W, 2.0W, 5.0W MODE: AM, FM ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- From: python-chinese-bounces at lists.python.cn [mailto:python-chinese-bounces at lists.python.cn] On Behalf Of March Liu Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 10:33 AM To: nicran; python-chinese at lists.python.cn Subject: Re: Re: [python-chinese] Re: 我们需要的是整合,而不是分裂。 Python为什么不能当作事业,当年还有拿Basic当作事业的呢,那老兄的奋斗目标无 非就是做一个可以放在4096字节空间的Basic…… 松下电器是卖插座开始的,Nokia是砍木头起家的,事业无大小,谋事在人,成事在 天。何况现在Python是动态语言新贵,连MS和IBM这样的巨头都对它另眼相看,再当 Python是小玩意也太后知后觉了。 在05-7-21,nicran <nicran at gmail.com> 写道: 把python当作事业?那事业也太小了吧!python只不过是一把斧头,一个镰刀而 已。 在 05-7-21,Spirit Auding<auding at gmail.com> 写道: > 梅先生颇有些当年实业救国派的风范…… > 佩服佩服! > > > On 7/21/05, alongrun < catchbug at 163.com> wrote: > > > > 有些项目带头来提高国内python方面的影响力---同意 > > 只要产品有前景,慢慢能够积累起人气。 > > 这些还需要各位高手仔细分析。 > > > > > > > > ======= 2005-07-20 22:30:54 您在来信中写道:======= > > > > > >我倒是觉得,需要真正有些项目带头来提高国内python方面的影响力.这个也是 我发起Python-QQ的原因,是先发展在革命,还是先革命再发展.这个问题我想没有太大必 要争论 > ,作好自己的事情,切实为中国的python事业作出贡献,就已经足够了. > > > > > >另外使用python的人可能很多,但是真正把它当做一门语言来学习,作为自己 的事业来发展的还是很少.道远而任重. > > > > > >在 05-7-19,Alex.Jao<jao.alex at gmail.com> 写道: > > >> 我也注册了,用户名alex,我是新手,请大哥、大姐们多多提协!!! > > >> > > >> -----Original Message----- > > >> From: python-chinese-bounces at lists.python.cn > > >> [mailto: python-chinese-bounces at lists.python.cn] On > Behalf Of limodou > > >> Sent: 2005年7月19日 15:44 > > >> To: python-chinese at lists.python.cn > > >> Subject: Re: [python-chinese] Re: 我们需要的是整合,而不是分裂。 > > >> > > >> 我已经注册成功了。用户名 limodou > > >> > > >> 在 05-7-19,limodou< limodou at gmail.com> 写道: > > >> > ???我还以为装在python.cn上了呢。 > > >> > > > >> > 2005/7/19, Gary Jia < gary at exoweb.net>: > > >> > > http://www.woodpecker.org.cn/CPUG/join_form > > >> > > > > >> > > On 二, 2005-07-19 at 15:35 +0800, limodou wrote: > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > 完整的链接是什么呀? > > >> > > > > >> > > 在 05-7-19,nEO< gentoo.cn at gmail.com> 写道: > > >> > > > 居然有不能注册的? > > >> > > > 倒是经常见到人讨论如何把注册/join_form去掉呀 > > >> > > > > > >> > > > 2005/7/19, Gary Jia < gary at exoweb.net>: > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > 可以了,在左边的登录表单下面有一个连接:"新用户?"。 > > >> > > > > 点击即可注册。 > > >> > > > > On 二, 2005-07-19 at 14:24 +0800, Zoom Quiet wrote: > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > ??? > > >> > > > > 唉呀呀??没有注意到………… > > >> > > > > 我是新建的一个Plone site, > > >> > > > > 怎么着?看这意思要设置什么东西才能开放注册的? > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > 谁知道先吼一声……………… > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > 在 05-7-19,张骏<zhangj at foreseen-info.com> 写道: > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > 嘿嘿。上面没有注册连接啊,要人肉输入 > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > 另外,俺是不是第一个注册的啊 > > >> > > > > > ----------------------- Original Message > ----------------------- > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > From: Zoom Quiet < zoom.quiet at gmail.com> > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > To: Qiangning Hong < hongqn at gmail.com >, > > >> > > > > python-chinese at lists.python.cn, "Python.cn at google" > > >> > > > < python-cn at googlegroups.com>, > > >> > > > > CPUG at googlegroups.com > > >> > > > > > Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 13:07:33 +0800 > > >> > > > > > Subject: Re: [python-chinese] Re: 我们需要的是整合,而 不是分裂。 > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > > >> > > > > > > 咳咳咳! > > >> > > > > > > 快速创立! > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > http://www.woodpecker.org.cn/CPUG/ > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > 可怜的 IE ! 看到的 logo 背景就不是透明的好 象……………… > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > 谁要管理?自个儿注册后涛乙簧; > > >> > > > > > > 我就先指定一下, 开始定制吧………… > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > 嗬嗬…………真是迫不及待哪………… > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > 在 05-7-19,Qiangning Hong<hongqn at gmail.com> 写道: > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > 同意。这样各地的兄弟都可以进来看了。 > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > 等到有其他地域的PUG起来后,可以在信件标题上注明 [BPUG]标明是北 > > >> 京相关帖子 > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > On 7/19/05, limodou < limodou at gmail.com> wrote: > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > 那可以保cpug,bpug的去了得了。 > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > 在 05-7-19,Qiangning Hong< > > >> > > > > hongqn at gmail.com> 写道: > > >> > > > > > > > > > On 7/19/05, 张骏 < zhangj at foreseen-info.com > > >> > > > > > wrote: > > >> > > > > > > > > > > googlegroups 支持email客户端吗? > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > 支持,选择Email模式即可。 > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > CPUG和Python-chinese能同步吗? > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > 这个恐怕不能自动同步。 > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > 邮件列表太多了也不是好事。发帖子都麻烦啊 > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > 我觉得CPUG的邮件列表和python-chinese邮件列表应该有不同的功 > > >> 能。 > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > CPUG的邮件应主要集中在活动组织和讨论上,而python-chinese应该 是一个技术交 > > >> 流空间。一般信件应该没必要两边都发,需要cross-posting的应该就是活 动通知了。 > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > 邮件列表还是要专list专用,太繁杂了不好,用起来 也不方便。 > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > 目前功能相重合的也就是 python-chinese at lists.python.cn和 > > >> limodou建的 > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > python-cn at googlegroups.com了。limodou建的这个列表是为python-chinese做 备 > > >> 份的,但是不是邮件备份,而是当python-chinese当掉时可以接着讨论的 备份。 > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > 邮件备份有google和gmane.org帮我们存着, > > >> > > > > 应该不用担心哪天没了的。 > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > -- > > >> > > > > > > > > > Qiangning Hong > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > I'm usually annoyed by IDEs because, for instance, > they > > >> don't > > >> > > > use VIM > > >> > > > > > > > > > as an editor. Since I'm hooked to that, all IDEs I've > used > > >> so > > >> > > > far have > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > failed to impress me. > > >> > > > > > > > > > -- Sybren Stuvel @ c.l.python > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Get Firefox! < > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > http://www.spreadfirefox.com/?q=affiliates&id;=67907&t;=1> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > python-chinese list > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > python-chinese at lists.python.cn > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > http://python.cn/mailman/listinfo/python-chinese > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > >> > > > > > > > > I like python! > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > My Donews Blog: http://www.donews.net/limodou > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > New Google Maillist: > > >> > > > http://groups-beta.google.com/group/python-cn > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > >> > > > > > > > > python-chinese list > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > python-chinese at lists.python.cn > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > http://python.cn/mailman/listinfo/python-chinese > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > -- > > >> > > > > > > > Qiangning Hong > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > I'm usually annoyed by IDEs because, for instance, they > don't > > >> use > > >> > > > VIM > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > as an editor. Since I'm hooked to that, all IDEs I've > used so > > >> far > > >> > > > have > > >> > > > > > > > failed to impress me. > > >> > > > > > > > -- Sybren Stuvel @ > > >> > > > > c.l.python > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Get Firefox! < > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > http://www.spreadfirefox.com/?q=affiliates&id;=67907&t;=1 > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > python-chinese list > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > python-chinese at lists.python.cn > > >> > > > > > > > > http://python.cn/mailman/listinfo/python-chinese > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > -- > > >> > > > > > > [Time is unimportant, only life important!] > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > --------------------- Original Message Ends > -------------------- > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > >> > > > > > python-chinese list > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > python-chinese at lists.python.cn > > >> > > > > > > http://python.cn/mailman/listinfo/python-chinese > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > >> > > > > python-chinese list > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > python-chinese at lists.python.cn > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > http://python.cn/mailman/listinfo/python-chinese > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > >> > > > > python-chinese list > > >> > > > > python-chinese at lists.python.cn > > >> > > > > > http://python.cn/mailman/listinfo/python-chinese > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > -- > > >> > > > > > >> > > > I'm the one, powered by nEO > > >> > > > _______________________________________________ > > >> > > > python-chinese list > > >> > > > python-chinese at lists.python.cn > > >> > > > http://python.cn/mailman/listinfo/python-chinese > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > >> > > python-chinese list > > >> > > python-chinese at lists.python.cn > > >> > > http://python.cn/mailman/listinfo/python-chinese > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > -- > > >> > I like python! > > >> > My Donews Blog: http://www.donews.net/limodou > > >> > New Google Maillist: > http://groups-beta.google.com/group/python-cn > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> -- > > >> I like python! > > >> My Donews Blog: http://www.donews.net/limodou > > >> New Google Maillist: > http://groups-beta.google.com/group/python-cn > > >> > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> python-chinese list > > >> python-chinese at lists.python.cn > > >> http://python.cn/mailman/listinfo/python-chinese > > >> > > > > > > > > >-- > > >梅劲松 > > >_______________________________________________ > > >python-chinese list > > >python-chinese at lists.python.cn > > >http://python.cn/mailman/listinfo/python-chinese > > > > > > > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = > > > > > > 致 > > 礼! > > > > > > alongrun > > catchbug at 163.com > > 2005-07-21 > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > python-chinese list > > python-chinese at lists.python.cn > > http://python.cn/mailman/listinfo/python-chinese > > > > > > > > > > -- > ############################################# > # "your future depends on your dreams." so go to sleep. > # save water. shower with your girlfriend. > # > # Welcom2 : http//blog.csdn.net/auding1900/ > ############################################# > _______________________________________________ > python-chinese list > python-chinese at lists.python.cn > http://python.cn/mailman/listinfo/python-chinese > > > _______________________________________________ python-chinese list python-chinese at lists.python.cn http://python.cn/mailman/listinfo/python-chinese -- 欢迎访问: http://blog.csdn.net/ccat 刘鑫 March.Liu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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2005年07月22日 星期五 12:23
jabber/xmpp的client多了去了 xmpp.py jabber.py twisted.words imcom 谁叫jabber客户端的协议那么容易实现呢 On 7/23/05, mahongquan <mahongquan730208 at 163.com> wrote: > 用gajim.py 这个jabber client 还不错,对于我们pythoner感觉很亲切 > > > _______________________________________________ > python-chinese list > python-chinese at lists.python.cn > http://python.cn/mailman/listinfo/python-chinese > -- simple is good
2005年07月23日 星期六 01:38
用gajim.py 这个jabber client 还不错,对于我们pythoner感觉很亲切
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