什么意思?哪个是这样的?

On 11/21/06, ygao <ygao2004在gmail.com> wrote:
> 是这样的，不过你可以改一下，效果还行。
>
>
> On 11/21/06, rosetta <rosettas在gmail.com> wrote:
> > On 11/21/06, shirj <shirj在livedoor.cn> wrote:
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> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 11/21/06, *shirj* <shirj在livedoor.cn shirj在livedoor.cn>>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >     Pythoners,
> > > >
> > > >     我补充一点:
> > > >
> > > >     看了大家的建议,真是大开眼界啊:)
> > > >     如果是你熟悉的环境,怎么都能顺手,但一个好的IDE
> > > >     起码要有:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 又是毫无营养的"最可爱的XXX"评选,  发点有意思的贴好不好,  写个SPE和BOA的
> > > > 详细指南也好啊
> > >
> > > 这话说的有点伤心啊:(
> > > 这不是没有营养的 XXX 评选,至少我没把大家引导这个方向上来.
> > >
> > > 再大点的项目,好的工具就体现优势了,这就是目的
> > >
> > > SPE,BOA,还用指南,都是pytheon写的,随机文档有,google搜吧:)
> >
> > boa的自动完成功能好像不大好用,好像必须按快捷键才能弹出,还是我不会设置?
> >
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On 11/21/06, cai feng <caifen1985在gmail.com> wrote:
> 什么意思?哪个是这样的?
这就是top-posting造成的后果

>
> On 11/21/06, ygao <ygao2004在gmail.com> wrote:
> > 是这样的，不过你可以改一下，效果还行。
> >
> >
> > On 11/21/06, rosetta <rosettas在gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On 11/21/06, shirj <shirj在livedoor.cn> wrote:
> > > > Bruce Wang wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On 11/21/06, *shirj* <shirj在livedoor.cn shirj在livedoor.cn>>
> > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >     Pythoners,
> > > > >
> > > > >     我补充一点:
> > > > >
> > > > >     看了大家的建议,真是大开眼界啊:)
> > > > >     如果是你熟悉的环境,怎么都能顺手,但一个好的IDE
> > > > >     起码要有:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > 又是毫无营养的"最可爱的XXX"评选,  发点有意思的贴好不好,  写个SPE和BOA的
> > > > > 详细指南也好啊
> > > >
> > > > 这话说的有点伤心啊:(
> > > > 这不是没有营养的 XXX 评选,至少我没把大家引导这个方向上来.
> > > >
> > > > 再大点的项目,好的工具就体现优势了,这就是目的
> > > >
> > > > SPE,BOA,还用指南,都是pytheon写的,随机文档有,google搜吧:)
> > >
> > > boa的自动完成功能好像不大好用,好像必须按快捷键才能弹出,还是我不会设置?
> > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
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On 11/21/06, ygao <ygao2004在gmail.com> wrote:
> 是这样的，不过你可以改一下，效果还行。
可以改成不用快捷键自动弹出吗

>
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> On 11/21/06, rosetta <rosettas在gmail.com> wrote:
> > On 11/21/06, shirj <shirj在livedoor.cn> wrote:
> > > Bruce Wang wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 11/21/06, *shirj* <shirj在livedoor.cn shirj在livedoor.cn>>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >     Pythoners,
> > > >
> > > >     我补充一点:
> > > >
> > > >     看了大家的建议,真是大开眼界啊:)
> > > >     如果是你熟悉的环境,怎么都能顺手,但一个好的IDE
> > > >     起码要有:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 又是毫无营养的"最可爱的XXX"评选,  发点有意思的贴好不好,  写个SPE和BOA的
> > > > 详细指南也好啊
> > >
> > > 这话说的有点伤心啊:(
> > > 这不是没有营养的 XXX 评选,至少我没把大家引导这个方向上来.
> > >
> > > 再大点的项目,好的工具就体现优势了,这就是目的
> > >
> > > SPE,BOA,还用指南,都是pytheon写的,随机文档有,google搜吧:)
> >
> > boa的自动完成功能好像不大好用,好像必须按快捷键才能弹出,还是我不会设置?
> >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > simple is good
> > > > http://brucewang.net
> > > > skype: number5
> > > >
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> > > > > On 11/21/06, *shirj* <shirj在livedoor.cn shirj在livedoor.cn
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emacs for windows NT
比较简单的有界面程序用VC画，用pipe和没有界面的进程通信。
界面复杂些的计划用wxPython,现在还没什么动力去学:(

c/c++程序主要用VC和SoftICE去调试,emacs有个cdb模式，但是比起VC来还是麻烦了些
Python的程序主要用winpdb调试

emacs的主要好处是这个集成环境可以很方便地使用一套快捷键，并且可以在不同的文件类型之间切换，比如我主要使用eshell,cpp,python

在 06-11-23，soulhacker511在163.com<soulhacker511在163.com> 写道：
>
> python-chinese，你好
>  我用vim写核心部分的代码，GUI用delphi.感觉gui方面delphi还是很快的。
>
> Guradian，soulhacker511在163.com
> 2006-11-22
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: shirj
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> Sent: 2006-11-21, 09:59:47
> Subject: [python-chinese] 分享:分析下你们心目中的好的IDE
>
>
>
> Pythoners,
>
>  我比较推荐的是SPE和BOA
>  但因为没有长时间的使用经验,不好给其评价和比较.
>  工欲善其事,必先利其器...
>
>  希望大家写出对你喜欢的工具的使用经验,体会和评价:)
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我最喜欢的还是 Intellij Idea    虽然是收费的 不过很便宜  可以接受

可惜目前不支持Python
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> 我最喜欢的还是 Intellij Idea    虽然是收费的 不过很便宜  可以接受
>
> 可惜目前不支持Python

因为你开发java，所以不同。

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SPE 的官网好像没法进去了～～～～ 没法试试传说中漂亮的SPE


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>
> On 11/24/06, Nicholas Pan <xdada280 at gmail.com> wrote:
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> >
> > 可惜目前不支持Python
>
> 因为你开发java，所以不同。
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On 11/24/06, hijack9 <hijack9在gmail.com> wrote:
> SPE 的官网好像没法进去了～～～～ 没法试试传说中漂亮的SPE

http://download.berlios.de/python/SPE-0.8.3.c.win32-py2.5.exe

>
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> On 11/24/06, limodou <limodou在gmail.com> wrote:
> > On 11/24/06, Nicholas Pan <xdada280在gmail.com> wrote:
> > > 我最喜欢的还是 Intellij Idea    虽然是收费的 不过很便宜  可以接受
> > >
> > > 可惜目前不支持Python
> >
> > 因为你开发java，所以不同。
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个人觉得好象wingide 最强，如果它能有boa的功能，那就无敌乐。呵呵

On 11/24/06, rosetta <rosettas at gmail.com> wrote:
> On 11/24/06, hijack9 <hijack9 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > SPE 的官网好像没法进去了～～～～ 没法试试传说中漂亮的SPE
>
> http://download.berlios.de/python/SPE-0.8.3.c.win32-py2.5.exe
>
> >
> >
> > On 11/24/06, limodou <limodou at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On 11/24/06, Nicholas Pan <xdada280 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > 我最喜欢的还是 Intellij Idea    虽然是收费的 不过很便宜  可以接受
> > > >
> > > > 可惜目前不支持Python
> > >
> > > 因为你开发java，所以不同。
> > >
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On 11/24/06, Roger Zheng <roger.zheng在gmail.com> wrote:
> 个人觉得好象wingide 最强，如果它能有boa的功能，那就无敌乐。呵呵

哪里不如boa

>
> On 11/24/06, rosetta <rosettas在gmail.com> wrote:
> > On 11/24/06, hijack9 <hijack9在gmail.com> wrote:
> > > SPE 的官网好像没法进去了～～～～ 没法试试传说中漂亮的SPE
> >
> > http://download.berlios.de/python/SPE-0.8.3.c.win32-py2.5.exe
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 11/24/06, limodou <limodou在gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > On 11/24/06, Nicholas Pan <xdada280在gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > 我最喜欢的还是 Intellij Idea    虽然是收费的 不过很便宜  可以接受
> > > > >
> > > > > 可惜目前不支持Python
> > > >
> > > > 因为你开发java，所以不同。
> > > >
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wingide 好象不能象boa那样拖拽的方式编辑图形界面哈。

On 11/24/06, rosetta <rosettas at gmail.com> wrote:
> On 11/24/06, Roger Zheng <roger.zheng at gmail.com> wrote:
> > 个人觉得好象wingide 最强，如果它能有boa的功能，那就无敌乐。呵呵
>
> 哪里不如boa
>
> >
> > On 11/24/06, rosetta <rosettas at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On 11/24/06, hijack9 <hijack9 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > SPE 的官网好像没法进去了～～～～ 没法试试传说中漂亮的SPE
> > >
> > > http://download.berlios.de/python/SPE-0.8.3.c.win32-py2.5.exe
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 11/24/06, limodou <limodou at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > On 11/24/06, Nicholas Pan <xdada280 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > 我最喜欢的还是 Intellij Idea    虽然是收费的 不过很便宜  可以接受
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 可惜目前不支持Python
> > > > >
> > > > > 因为你开发java，所以不同。
> > > > >
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Visual SlickEdit

选这个的主要原因是，这是一个极好的编辑器。能模拟vim的工作方式，有cvs，ftp，sftp的接口，能管理项目，有class
browser。反正除了debugger之外，IDE该有的它都有了，而且还都不错。

选这个的次要原因是其他Python
IDE的debugger都太次了，次的我都不想用。Komodo慢的如同蜗牛爬，调试的时候连我都替他着急。IDLE只有一个单步方式，而且还不能设置调用栈的深度，每次用到标准类库的时候，他就像发疯一样，替你刨根问底，也不问问你是不是需要。用来用去还是pdb好一点，但是也只是五十步和一百步的区别，因此很多时候，我宁可用print。

11/24/06, JimCheng在CCF <witcheng在gmail.com> wrote:
>
>  wingide 是不错，但是支持汉字还是有问题
>  现在再用Komodo，不知道大家用过没，支持汉字也是麻烦事，不过支持多语种，比较方便些。 :-)
>
>  Roger Zheng 写道:
>  个人觉得好象wingide 最强，如果它能有boa的功能，那就无敌乐。呵呵
>
> On 11/24/06, rosetta <rosettas在gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>  On 11/24/06, hijack9 <hijack9在gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>  SPE 的官网好像没法进去了～～～～ 没法试试传说中漂亮的SPE
>
> http://download.berlios.de/python/SPE-0.8.3.c.win32-py2.5.exe
>
>
>
>  On 11/24/06, limodou <limodou在gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>  On 11/24/06, Nicholas Pan <xdada280在gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>  我最喜欢的还是 Intellij Idea 虽然是收费的 不过很便宜 可以接受
>
> 可惜目前不支持Python
>
>  因为你开发java，所以不同。
>
> --
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hijack9 写道:
> SPE 的官网好像没法进去了～～～～ 没法试试传说中漂亮的SPE
>
>  
> On 11/24/06, *limodou* <limodou在gmail.com limodou在gmail.com>> 
> wrote:
>
>     On 11/24/06, Nicholas Pan <xdada280在gmail.com
>     xdada280在gmail.com>> wrote:
>     > 我最喜欢的还是 Intellij Idea    虽然是收费的 不过很便宜  可以接受
>     >
>     > 可惜目前不支持Python
>
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在sourceforge上spe项目还在，而且也还在更新

On 11/21/06, shirj <shirj在livedoor.cn> wrote:
> Pythoners,
>
> 我比较推荐的是SPE和BOA
> 但因为没有长时间的使用经验,不好给其评价和比较.
> 工欲善其事,必先利其器...
>
> 希望大家写出对你喜欢的工具的使用经验,体会和评价:)

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> 11/24/06, JimCheng在CCF <witcheng在gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >  wingide ÊDz»´í£¬µ«ÊÇÖ§³Öºº×Ö»¹ÊÇÓÐÎÊÌâ
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> >
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> > On 11/24/06, rosetta <rosettas在gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >  On 11/24/06, hijack9 <hijack9在gmail.com> wrote:
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> >
> >  SPE µÄ¹ÙÍøºÃÏñû·¨½øÈ¥ÁË¡«¡«¡«¡« û·¨ÊÔÊÔ´«ËµÖÐƯÁÁµÄSPE
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> >
> >
> >
> >  On 11/24/06, limodou <limodou在gmail.com> wrote:
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> >
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