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标题:[python-chinese] 题外话:像lumaqq这样的软件,算不算非法的?

2007年04月08日 星期日 21:33

jessinio smith jessinio在gmail.com
星期日 四月 8 21:33:16 HKT 2007

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2007年04月09日 星期一 00:36

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星期一 四月 9 00:36:03 HKT 2007

从来没有仔细看过版权声明吧,绝大部分商业软件都指出不能反向工程并用于商业目的。

在07-4-8,jessinio smith <jessinio在gmail.com> 写道:
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> 如题!
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> 我觉得像lumaqq这种利用人家的协议的软件不算非法吧。
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> 现在连反汇编都是合法了。
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2007年04月09日 星期一 09:10

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星期一 四月 9 09:10:19 HKT 2007

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2007年04月09日 星期一 09:14

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星期一 四月 9 09:14:03 HKT 2007

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2007年04月09日 星期一 09:48

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星期一 四月 9 09:48:55 HKT 2007

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2007年04月09日 星期一 10:09

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星期一 四月 9 10:09:08 HKT 2007

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2007年04月09日 星期一 10:19

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星期一 四月 9 10:19:18 HKT 2007

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2007年04月09日 星期一 10:27

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2007年04月09日 星期一 10:32

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星期一 四月 9 10:32:37 HKT 2007

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2007年04月09日 星期一 10:35

Zhengpeng Hou zhengpeng-hou在ubuntu.com
星期一 四月 9 10:35:51 HKT 2007

lumaqq不是使用了QQ的协议,而是自己实现了qq的协议。并且在中国做逆向工程是合法的,包括软件和硬件的。

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2007年04月09日 星期一 10:57

jessinio smith jessinio在gmail.com
星期一 四月 9 10:57:12 HKT 2007

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2007年04月09日 星期一 11:02

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星期一 四月 9 11:02:21 HKT 2007

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2007年04月09日 星期一 11:06

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星期一 四月 9 11:06:15 HKT 2007

珊瑚虫被告倒了,要是eva,lumaqq的影响如珊蝴虫一样,起码也要被告倒的
On Mon, Apr 09, 2007 at 11:02:21AM +0800, Albert Lee wrote:
> 是不是可以这样理解:如果 lumaqq 连接自己的即时通信服务器,那就合法
> 而连接了腾讯的服务器,并且谋取商业利益给腾讯造成经济损失,就是非法。(比如加载
> 自己的广告一类)
> 
> 如果这样算,珊瑚虫应该是不合法的
> 
> 在07-4-9,jessinio smith < jessinio在gmail.com> 写道:
> 
> 
>     这句话说得有点道理:"是合法.但你连接对方服务器.给对方公司代来经济损失就不
>     合法.'
> 
> 
>     这好像是不对哦:"lumaqq不是使用了QQ的协议,而是自己实现了qq的协议"
> 
> 
>     On 4/9/07, Zhengpeng Hou < zhengpeng-hou在ubuntu.com> wrote:
> 
>         lumaqq不是使用了QQ的协议,而是自己实现了qq的协议。并且在中国做逆向工程
>         是合法的,包括软件和硬件的。
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2007年04月09日 星期一 11:10

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星期一 四月 9 11:10:08 HKT 2007

协议和软件还应该是两码事。

你可以不反汇编软件,通过tcpdump,sniffer之类的工具分析数据包,然后破解这个协议。

反正这个东西太复杂,不是技术人员应该操心的。

On 4/8/07, Albert Lee <hanzhupeng在gmail.com> wrote:
> 是不是可以这样理解: 如果 lumaqq 连接自己的即时通信服务器,那就合法
> 而连接了腾讯的服务器,并且谋取商业利益给腾讯造成经济损失,就是非法。(比如加载自己的广告一类)
>
> 如果这样算,珊瑚虫应该是不合法的
>
> 在07-4-9,jessinio smith < jessinio在gmail.com> 写道:
> >
> > 这句话说得有点道理:"是合法.但你连接对方服务器.给对方公司代来经济损失就不合法.'
> >
> >
> > 这好像是不对哦:"lumaqq不是使用了QQ的协议,而是自己实现了qq的协议"
> >
> >
> >
> > On 4/9/07, Zhengpeng Hou < zhengpeng-hou在ubuntu.com> wrote:
> > > lumaqq不是使用了QQ的协议,而是自己实现了qq的协议。并且在中国做逆向工程是合法的,包括软件和硬件的。
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星期一 四月 9 11:10:29 HKT 2007

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2007年04月09日 星期一 11:15

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星期一 四月 9 11:15:01 HKT 2007

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2007年04月09日 星期一 11:29

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星期一 四月 9 11:29:03 HKT 2007

当有利益冲突,腾讯就会下手了
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星期一 四月 9 11:38:18 HKT 2007

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2007年04月09日 星期一 11:48

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星期一 四月 9 11:48:14 HKT 2007

貌似还是开源技术有偿服务好点,否则都很麻烦。

在 07-4-9,jessinio smith<jessinio在gmail.com> 写道:
> 总的来说:用人家协议现在有法律问题
>
> On 4/9/07, liupeng <liupeng在18mail.cn> wrote:
> >
> > 当有利益冲突,腾讯就会下手了
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星期一 四月 9 12:08:58 HKT 2007

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