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为什么要把简单的事情做复杂了。无论语言还是framework只不过是工具而已，xml有好
处也有坏处


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>Subject: Re: [python-chinese]请问这里有研究TurboGears的朋友吗？
>Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2007 21:15:13 +0800
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>嗯，这里我也觉得，只是不同技术观点的差异，并没有什么情绪在里面。
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>在07-6-6，limodou <limodou在gmail.com> 写道：
>>
>>On 6/6/07, Zhou Honglin <zhou.honglin在gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Django的Template文档明显有攻击tg Kid的倾向：
>> >
>> >
>> > Why use a text-based template instead of an XML-based one (like 
>>Zope's
>>TAL)?
>> > We wanted Django's template language to be usable for more than 
>>just
>> > XML/HTML templates. At World Online, we use it for e-mails, 
>>JavaScript
>>and
>> > CSV. You can use the template language for any text-based 
>>format.
>> >
>> > Oh, and one more thing: Making humans edit XML is sadistic!
>> >
>> > 虽然举的例子是TAL……
>> >
>>
>>我也不喜欢XML。文档是人写的，所以有可能会有个人的情绪，希望别人的感受不会
影响你的判断。xml的模板引擎很多，象TAL, 
>>Kid,
>>Genshi等。
>>
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我的意思就是说ts 的orm相对django来说比较成熟

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>To: python-chinese在lists.python.cn
>Subject: Re: [python-chinese]请问这里有研究TurboGears的朋友吗？
>Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2007 20:55:58 +0800
>
>Django的Template文档明显有攻击tg Kid的倾向：
>
>Why use a text-based template instead of an XML-based one (like 
>Zope's TAL)?
>We wanted Django's template language to be usable for more than just
>XML/HTML templates. At World Online, we use it for e-mails, 
>JavaScript and
>CSV. You can use the template language for any text-based format.
>
>Oh, and one more thing: Making humans edit XML is sadistic!
>
>虽然举的例子是TAL……
>
>
>On 6/6/07, limodou <limodou在gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>On 6/6/07, cun heise <cunheise在hotmail.com> wrote:
>> > 据说orm做的比django好
>> >
>>tg的orm不是自已的，它可以使用sqlobject或sqlalchemy。tg的特点就是把众多项目
组合在一起。而django是自已做的，包括模板，ORM，URLmapping等。所以两者思路不
同。
>>
>>
>>--
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cun heise wrote:
> 我的意思就是说ts 的orm相对django来说比较成熟
>
>   
>> From: "Zhou Honglin" <zhou.honglin在gmail.com>
>> Reply-To: python-chinese在lists.python.cn
>> To: python-chinese在lists.python.cn
>> Subject: Re: [python-chinese]请问这里有研究TurboGears的朋友吗？
>> Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2007 20:55:58 +0800
>>
>> Django的Template文档明显有攻击tg Kid的倾向：
>>
>> Why use a text-based template instead of an XML-based one (like 
>> Zope's TAL)?
>> We wanted Django's template language to be usable for more than just
>> XML/HTML templates. At World Online, we use it for e-mails, 
>> JavaScript and
>> CSV. You can use the template language for any text-based format.
>>
>> Oh, and one more thing: Making humans edit XML is sadistic!
>>
>> 虽然举的例子是TAL……
>>
>>
>> On 6/6/07, limodou <limodou在gmail.com> wrote:
>>     
>>> On 6/6/07, cun heise <cunheise在hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>       
>>>> 据说orm做的比django好
>>>>
>>>>         
>>> tg的orm不是自已的，它可以使用sqlobject或sqlalchemy。tg的特点就是把众多项目
>>>       
> 组合在一起。而django是自已做的，包括模板，ORM，URLmapping等。所以两者思路不
> 同。
>   
>>> --
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目前感觉tg还是很好用的，集各家所长。不过我觉得tg升级的过程，可能会替换其 
中的组件，给用户的程序带来的升级麻烦，相对django来说会大一些。但是tg本身 
的设计会松散些，个人写程序我倾向于使用tg。

对于分散的模块没什么研究的话，DJango上手会比较快。XML的模板写起来真是不太人性化。

在07-6-7，Yongchao Lao <fluke.l at gmail.com> 写道：
>
> cun heise wrote:
> > 我的意思就是说ts 的orm相对django来说比较成熟
> >
> >
> >> From: "Zhou Honglin" <zhou.honglin at gmail.com>
> >> Reply-To: python-chinese at lists.python.cn
> >> To: python-chinese at lists.python.cn
> >> Subject: Re: [python-chinese]请问这里有研究TurboGears的朋友吗？
> >> Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2007 20:55:58 +0800
> >>
> >> Django的Template文档明显有攻击tg Kid的倾向：
> >>
> >> Why use a text-based template instead of an XML-based one (like
> >> Zope's TAL)?
> >> We wanted Django's template language to be usable for more than just
> >> XML/HTML templates. At World Online, we use it for e-mails,
> >> JavaScript and
> >> CSV. You can use the template language for any text-based format.
> >>
> >> Oh, and one more thing: Making humans edit XML is sadistic!
> >>
> >> 虽然举的例子是TAL……
> >>
> >>
> >> On 6/6/07, limodou <limodou at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> On 6/6/07, cun heise <cunheise at hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> 据说orm做的比django好
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>> tg的orm不是自已的，它可以使用sqlobject或sqlalchemy。tg的特点就是把众多项目
> >>>
> > 组合在一起。而django是自已做的，包括模板，ORM，URLmapping等。所以两者思路不
> > 同。
> >
> >>> --
> >>> I like python!
> >>> UliPad <>:
> >>> http://wiki.woodpecker.org.cn/moin/UliPad
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> 目前感觉tg还是很好用的，集各家所长。不过我觉得tg升级的过程，可能会替换其
> 中的组件，给用户的程序带来的升级麻烦，相对django来说会大一些。但是tg本身
> 的设计会松散些，个人写程序我倾向于使用tg。
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