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Re: 请问这里有研究TurboGears的朋友吗？ (limon lin) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2007 22:32:25 +0800 From: Yongchao Lao <fluke.l在gmail.com> Subject: Re: [python-chinese] 大家能否推荐个好的项目管理软件？ To: python-chinese在lists.python.cn Message-ID: <4666C579.3080505在gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Zoom.Quiet wrote: > On 6/6/07, wang dy <dongyang.wang在gmail.com> wrote: > >> 推荐 dotproject,php的 >> >> > 不推荐dotproject，使用过，配置复杂，运行慢，操作麻烦，关键是对 SVN 的集成没有很好的处理； > > 不象Trac 一键式安装，而且自带 web 服务， > 只要运行一个进程，其它什么都不靠就可以提供完整的管理环境， > 而且扩展方便，特别是 Report 的定制，你可以根据你的具体情况快速创建自个儿的Ticket 视图 方便无比... > > >> 在07-6-5，wang_zheng_yong <wang_zheng_yong在163.com> 写道： >> >>> >>> >>> 大家开发软件的时候， 一般都用什么项目管理软件， 比如，任务分配 >>> bug管理， 版本管理。文档管理，需求..... >>> >>> 我这里只是简单bugzila+svn. 任务分配就是口头上的东东。 >>> >>> 不知道大家手上有没有什么好用的东东？ 期待... >>> >>> >>> >>> ________________________________ >>> >>> 2007-06-05 >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> python-chinese >>> Post: send python-chinese在lists.python.cn >>> Subscribe: send subscribe to >>> >> python-chinese-request在lists.python.cn >> >>> Unsubscribe: send unsubscribe to >>> >> python-chinese-request在lists.python.cn >> >>> Detail Info: >>> >> http://python.cn/mailman/listinfo/python-chinese >> >> _______________________________________________ >> python-chinese >> Post: send python-chinese在lists.python.cn >> Subscribe: send subscribe to >> python-chinese-request在lists.python.cn >> Unsubscribe: send unsubscribe to >> python-chinese-request在lists.python.cn >> Detail Info: >> http://python.cn/mailman/listinfo/python-chinese >> >> > > > trac我也用来维护过一个项目，确实是很方便的，dotproject就没听过了。现在很 多项目都用trac... ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2007 22:31:31 +0800 From: "jessinio smith" <jessinio在gmail.com> Subject: Re: [python-chinese] py中整数对象建立 To: python-chinese在lists.python.cn Message-ID: <7a051ed70706060731r4fc58061m640236c72c2d3b9b在mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="gb2312" python中，数值是没有长度限制的。 -------------- 涓???ㄥ? -------------- 一个HTML附件被移除... URL: http://python.cn/pipermail/python-chinese/attachments/20070606/db52e8f8/attachment-0001.html ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2007 22:59:58 +0800 From: "huanghao.c" <huanghao.c在gmail.com> Subject: Re: [python-chinese] 大家能否推荐个好的项目管理软件？ To: python-chinese在lists.python.cn Message-ID: <4666CBEE.9000208在gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed "]project-open[" 粉不错。 不过， 是依赖 PostgreSQL（不支持其他 DBMS) 的， 你可以试试。 Yongchao Lao 写道: > Zoom.Quiet wrote: > >> On 6/6/07, wang dy <dongyang.wang在gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >>> 推荐 dotproject,php的 >>> >>> >>> >> 不推荐dotproject，使用过，配置复杂，运行慢，操作麻烦，关键是对 SVN 的集成没有很好的处理； >> >> 不象Trac 一键式安装，而且自带 web 服务， >> 只要运行一个进程，其它什么都不靠就可以提供完整的管理环境， >> 而且扩展方便，特别是 Report 的定制，你可以根据你的具体情况快速创建自个儿的Ticket 视图 方便无比... >> >> >> >>> 在07-6-5，wang_zheng_yong <wang_zheng_yong在163.com> 写道： >>> >>> >>>> 大家开发软件的时候， 一般都用什么项目管理软件， 比如，任务分配 >>>> bug管理， 版本管理。文档管理，需求..... >>>> >>>> 我这里只是简单bugzila+svn. 任务分配就是口头上的东东。 >>>> >>>> 不知道大家手上有没有什么好用的东东？ 期待... >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ________________________________ >>>> >>>> 2007-06-05 >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> python-chinese >>>> Post: send python-chinese在lists.python.cn >>>> Subscribe: send subscribe to >>>> >>>> >>> python-chinese-request在lists.python.cn >>> >>> >>>> Unsubscribe: send unsubscribe to >>>> >>>> >>> python-chinese-request在lists.python.cn >>> >>> >>>> Detail Info: >>>> >>>> >>> http://python.cn/mailman/listinfo/python-chinese >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> python-chinese >>> Post: send python-chinese在lists.python.cn >>> Subscribe: send subscribe to >>> python-chinese-request在lists.python.cn >>> Unsubscribe: send unsubscribe to >>> python-chinese-request在lists.python.cn >>> Detail Info: >>> http://python.cn/mailman/listinfo/python-chinese >>> >>> >>> >> >> > trac我也用来维护过一个项目，确实是很方便的，dotproject就没听过了。现在很 > 多项目都用trac... > _______________________________________________ > python-chinese > Post: send python-chinese在lists.python.cn > Subscribe: send subscribe to python-chinese-request在lists.python.cn > Unsubscribe: send unsubscribe to python-chinese-request在lists.python.cn > Detail Info: http://python.cn/mailman/listinfo/python-chinese ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2007 16:42:55 +0000 From: "cun heise" <cunheise在hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [python-chinese] 请问这里有研究TurboGears的朋友吗？ To: python-chinese在lists.python.cn Message-ID: <BAY133-F170C5D4A5D6B7044E9AB61C5270在phx.gbl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=gb2312; format=flowed 为什么要把简单的事情做复杂了。无论语言还是framework只不过是工具而已，xml有好 处也有坏处 >From: "刘鑫" <march.liu在gmail.com> >Reply-To: python-chinese在lists.python.cn >To: python-chinese在lists.python.cn >Subject: Re: [python-chinese]请问这里有研究TurboGears的朋友吗？ >Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2007 21:15:13 +0800 > >嗯，这里我也觉得，只是不同技术观点的差异，并没有什么情绪在里面。 > >在07-6-6，limodou <limodou在gmail.com> 写道： >> >>On 6/6/07, Zhou Honglin <zhou.honglin在gmail.com> wrote: >> > Django的Template文档明显有攻击tg Kid的倾向： >> > >> > >> > Why use a text-based template instead of an XML-based one (like >>Zope's >>TAL)? >> > We wanted Django's template language to be usable for more than >>just >> > XML/HTML templates. At World Online, we use it for e-mails, >>JavaScript >>and >> > CSV. You can use the template language for any text-based >>format. >> > >> > Oh, and one more thing: Making humans edit XML is sadistic! >> > >> > 虽然举的例子是TAL…… >> > >> >>我也不喜欢XML。文档是人写的，所以有可能会有个人的情绪，希望别人的感受不会 影响你的判断。xml的模板引擎很多，象TAL, >>Kid, >>Genshi等。 >> >>-- >>I like python! >>UliPad <>: >>http://wiki.woodpecker.org.cn/moin/UliPad >>My Blog: http://www.donews.net/limodou >>_______________________________________________ >>python-chinese >>Post: send python-chinese在lists.python.cn >>Subscribe: send subscribe to python-chinese-request在lists.python.cn >>Unsubscribe: send unsubscribe to >>python-chinese-request在lists.python.cn >>Detail Info: http://python.cn/mailman/listinfo/python-chinese > > > > >-- >登山者去登山，因为山在那里 >我在思考，因为问题在那里 > >刘鑫 >March.Liu >_______________________________________________ >python-chinese >Post: send python-chinese在lists.python.cn >Subscribe: send subscribe to python-chinese-request在lists.python.cn >Unsubscribe: send unsubscribe to python-chinese-request在lists.python.cn >Detail Info: http://python.cn/mailman/listinfo/python-chinese _________________________________________________________________ 与世界各地的朋友进行交流，免费下载 Live Messenger; http://get.live.com/messenger/overview ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2007 16:46:29 +0000 From: "cun heise" <cunheise在hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [python-chinese] 请问这里有研究TurboGears的朋友吗？ To: python-chinese在lists.python.cn Message-ID: <BAY133-F11B3B2252DDECD3BC765B4C5270在phx.gbl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=gb2312; format=flowed 我的意思就是说ts 的orm相对django来说比较成熟 >From: "Zhou Honglin" <zhou.honglin在gmail.com> >Reply-To: python-chinese在lists.python.cn >To: python-chinese在lists.python.cn >Subject: Re: [python-chinese]请问这里有研究TurboGears的朋友吗？ >Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2007 20:55:58 +0800 > >Django的Template文档明显有攻击tg Kid的倾向： > >Why use a text-based template instead of an XML-based one (like >Zope's TAL)? >We wanted Django's template language to be usable for more than just >XML/HTML templates. At World Online, we use it for e-mails, >JavaScript and >CSV. You can use the template language for any text-based format. > >Oh, and one more thing: Making humans edit XML is sadistic! > >虽然举的例子是TAL…… > > >On 6/6/07, limodou <limodou在gmail.com> wrote: >> >>On 6/6/07, cun heise <cunheise在hotmail.com> wrote: >> > 据说orm做的比django好 >> > >>tg的orm不是自已的，它可以使用sqlobject或sqlalchemy。tg的特点就是把众多项目 组合在一起。而django是自已做的，包括模板，ORM，URLmapping等。所以两者思路不 同。 >> >> >>-- >>I like python! >>UliPad <>: >>http://wiki.woodpecker.org.cn/moin/UliPad >>My Blog: http://www.donews.net/limodou >>_______________________________________________ >>python-chinese >>Post: send python-chinese在lists.python.cn >>Subscribe: send subscribe to python-chinese-request在lists.python.cn >>Unsubscribe: send unsubscribe to >>python-chinese-request在lists.python.cn >>Detail Info: http://python.cn/mailman/listinfo/python-chinese >_______________________________________________ >python-chinese >Post: send python-chinese在lists.python.cn >Subscribe: send subscribe to python-chinese-request在lists.python.cn >Unsubscribe: send unsubscribe to python-chinese-request在lists.python.cn >Detail Info: http://python.cn/mailman/listinfo/python-chinese _________________________________________________________________ 与世界各地的朋友进行交流，免费下载 Live Messenger; http://get.live.com/messenger/overview ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2007 01:16:27 +0800 From: Yongchao Lao <fluke.l在gmail.com> Subject: Re: [python-chinese] 请问这里有研究TurboGears的朋友吗？ To: python-chinese在lists.python.cn Message-ID: <4666EBEB.60206在gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed cun heise wrote: > 我的意思就是说ts 的orm相对django来说比较成熟 > > >> From: "Zhou Honglin" <zhou.honglin在gmail.com> >> Reply-To: python-chinese在lists.python.cn >> To: python-chinese在lists.python.cn >> Subject: Re: [python-chinese]请问这里有研究TurboGears的朋友吗？ >> Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2007 20:55:58 +0800 >> >> Django的Template文档明显有攻击tg Kid的倾向： >> >> Why use a text-based template instead of an XML-based one (like >> Zope's TAL)? >> We wanted Django's template language to be usable for more than just >> XML/HTML templates. At World Online, we use it for e-mails, >> JavaScript and >> CSV. You can use the template language for any text-based format. >> >> Oh, and one more thing: Making humans edit XML is sadistic! >> >> 虽然举的例子是TAL…… >> >> >> On 6/6/07, limodou <limodou在gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> On 6/6/07, cun heise <cunheise在hotmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> 据说orm做的比django好 >>>> >>>> >>> tg的orm不是自已的，它可以使用sqlobject或sqlalchemy。tg的特点就是把众多项目 >>> > 组合在一起。而django是自已做的，包括模板，ORM，URLmapping等。所以两者思路不 > 同。 > >>> -- >>> I like python! >>> UliPad <>: >>> http://wiki.woodpecker.org.cn/moin/UliPad >>> My Blog: http://www.donews.net/limodou >>> _______________________________________________ >>> python-chinese >>> Post: send python-chinese在lists.python.cn >>> Subscribe: send subscribe to python-chinese-request在lists.python.cn >>> Unsubscribe: send unsubscribe to >>> python-chinese-request在lists.python.cn >>> Detail Info: http://python.cn/mailman/listinfo/python-chinese >>> > > > >> _______________________________________________ >> python-chinese >> Post: send python-chinese在lists.python.cn >> Subscribe: send subscribe to python-chinese-request在lists.python.cn >> Unsubscribe: send unsubscribe to python-chinese-request在lists.python.cn >> Detail Info: http://python.cn/mailman/listinfo/python-chinese >> > > _________________________________________________________________ > 与世界各地的朋友进行交流，免费下载 Live Messenger; > http://get.live.com/messenger/overview > > _______________________________________________ > python-chinese > Post: send python-chinese在lists.python.cn > Subscribe: send subscribe to python-chinese-request在lists.python.cn > Unsubscribe: send unsubscribe to python-chinese-request在lists.python.cn > Detail Info: http://python.cn/mailman/listinfo/python-chinese 目前感觉tg还是很好用的，集各家所长。不过我觉得tg升级的过程，可能会替换其 中的组件，给用户的程序带来的升级麻烦，相对django来说会大一些。但是tg本身 的设计会松散些，个人写程序我倾向于使用tg。 ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2007 08:25:03 +0800 From: "limon lin" <limon7在gmail.com> Subject: Re: [python-chinese] 请问这里有研究TurboGears的朋友吗？ To: python-chinese在lists.python.cn Message-ID: <9f74fd990706061725n76ccff57u3e204e0cb0b91d5b在mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="gb2312" 对于分散的模块没什么研究的话，DJango上手会比较快。XML的模板写起来真是不太人性化。 在07-6-7，Yongchao Lao <fluke.l在gmail.com> 写道： > > cun heise wrote: > > 我的意思就是说ts 的orm相对django来说比较成熟 > > > > > >> From: "Zhou Honglin" <zhou.honglin在gmail.com> > >> Reply-To: python-chinese在lists.python.cn > >> To: python-chinese在lists.python.cn > >> Subject: Re: [python-chinese]请问这里有研究TurboGears的朋友吗？ > >> Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2007 20:55:58 +0800 > >> > >> Django的Template文档明显有攻击tg Kid的倾向： > >> > >> Why use a text-based template instead of an XML-based one (like > >> Zope's TAL)? > >> We wanted Django's template language to be usable for more than just > >> XML/HTML templates. At World Online, we use it for e-mails, > >> JavaScript and > >> CSV. You can use the template language for any text-based format. > >> > >> Oh, and one more thing: Making humans edit XML is sadistic! > >> > >> 虽然举的例子是TAL…… > >> > >> > >> On 6/6/07, limodou <limodou在gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >>> On 6/6/07, cun heise <cunheise在hotmail.com> wrote: > >>> > >>>> 据说orm做的比django好 > >>>> > >>>> > >>> tg的orm不是自已的，它可以使用sqlobject或sqlalchemy。tg的特点就是把众多项目 > >>> > > 组合在一起。而django是自已做的，包括模板，ORM，URLmapping等。所以两者思路不 > > 同。 > > > >>> -- > >>> I like python! > >>> UliPad <>: > >>> http://wiki.woodpecker.org.cn/moin/UliPad > >>> My Blog: http://www.donews.net/limodou > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> python-chinese > >>> Post: send python-chinese在lists.python.cn > >>> Subscribe: send subscribe to python-chinese-request在lists.python.cn > >>> Unsubscribe: send unsubscribe to > >>> python-chinese-request在lists.python.cn > >>> Detail Info: http://python.cn/mailman/listinfo/python-chinese > >>> > > > > > > > >> _______________________________________________ > >> python-chinese > >> Post: send python-chinese在lists.python.cn > >> Subscribe: send subscribe to python-chinese-request在lists.python.cn > >> Unsubscribe: send unsubscribe to > python-chinese-request在lists.python.cn > >> Detail Info: http://python.cn/mailman/listinfo/python-chinese > >> > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > 与世界各地的朋友进行交流，免费下载 Live Messenger; > > http://get.live.com/messenger/overview > > > > _______________________________________________ > > python-chinese > > Post: send python-chinese在lists.python.cn > > Subscribe: send subscribe to python-chinese-request在lists.python.cn > > Unsubscribe: send unsubscribe to python-chinese-request在lists.python.cn > > Detail Info: http://python.cn/mailman/listinfo/python-chinese > 目前感觉tg还是很好用的，集各家所长。不过我觉得tg升级的过程，可能会替换其 > 中的组件，给用户的程序带来的升级麻烦，相对django来说会大一些。但是tg本身 > 的设计会松散些，个人写程序我倾向于使用tg。 > _______________________________________________ > python-chinese > Post: send python-chinese在lists.python.cn > Subscribe: send subscribe to python-chinese-request在lists.python.cn > Unsubscribe: send unsubscribe to python-chinese-request在lists.python.cn > Detail Info: http://python.cn/mailman/listinfo/python-chinese -------------- 涓???ㄥ? -------------- 一个HTML附件被移除... 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