虽然目前Django的应用开始多了起来，但相比PHP、JAVA等还差得太远了。
想要找个现成的论坛，有，不过功能还很简单，连附件管理功能都没有。
Blog，有，一样的简单：（。
总之能找到的东西都很简单。

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On 10/17/07, vicalloy <zbirder在gmail.com> wrote:
> 虽然目前Django的应用开始多了起来，但相比PHP、JAVA等还差得太远了。
> 想要找个现成的论坛，有，不过功能还很简单，连附件管理功能都没有。
> Blog，有，一样的简单：（。
> 总之能找到的东西都很简单。
>

功能与复杂度永远是成正比的。
想要功能强，就一定复杂，学起来难。
又想要功能强，又不想学复杂的东西。哪有那么好的事？

想要功能强，去学zope/plone吧。貌似什么功能都有了。


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> On 10/17/07, vicalloy <zbirder在gmail.com> wrote:
> > 虽然目前Django的应用开始多了起来，但相比PHP、JAVA等还差得太远了。
> > 想要找个现成的论坛，有，不过功能还很简单，连附件管理功能都没有。
> > Blog，有，一样的简单：（。
> > 总之能找到的东西都很简单。
> >
>
> 功能与复杂度永远是成正比的。
> 想要功能强，就一定复杂，学起来难。
> 又想要功能强，又不想学复杂的东西。哪有那么好的事？
>
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功能与复杂度永远是成正比的。
但总有个平衡点，这个平衡点根据不通的需求而不通。
对于我来说，我希望的平衡点是。
如果Django有不少现有的模块，拿过来做个集成，减少重复开发的工作量。

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> :(说得好像Django只能做一些简单的小东西一样。
>

功能强不强是相对的啊。
相对于你又要论坛，又要CMS，又要blog，而且功能简单了还不行的要求来说，
django是简单了一些。

相对于我平时的需求来说，webpy都显得复杂了些。更别说django了。

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做论坛的话应当也没这么夸张。
对于大访问量的web肯定都都有cache的。
JAVAEYE用ROR做的，性能方面还可以。
DJANGO默认的OR/MAP应当没这么差。

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> 如果论坛日IP一两万的如果用DZ之类的 买个虚拟空间就行了。
> 我想用如果是django做的话这样的访问量不做cache的话 数据库很可能被拖死。
>
> 我想django更适合做内容发布之类的东西。发布出来变化就比较小了 cache能发挥比较大的作用。
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> 我是觉得缺少一个类似smarty缓存实现那种的"平民化"的页面缓存方案。 只要空间够就可以。
> Memcached、squid这些对于使用虚拟空间的用户都不太现实。
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> > DJANGO缓存也有很好的解决方案，去GOOGLE一下吧
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> > 在07-10-19，HD <hdcola在gmail.com> 写道：
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> > > 我没细心看过，但是最简单的方法就是把header中加上cache ctl，前面搞个squid不就成了 :)
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> > > 在07-10-17，大郎 < iexper在gmail.com> 写道：
> > > >
> > > > 在smarty中,我们看到大多请求的页面都被生成类似静态的页面在cache目录下, 下次请求是读取这个页面
> > > >
> > > > 在django中,至少没有这样, 是用内存来存取的. 所以你把内存稿大一些吧.:)
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> > > > On 10/17/07, @@ < askfor在gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > > 用自己的主机的和用虚拟主机自然不能比。
> > > > >
> > > > > 自己的主机资源占用率高点也无所谓，但是虚拟主机空间商就不会答应了 呵呵。
> > > > >
> > > > >
> django的cache_view不知道怎么实现的，不知道是不是和smarty的cache差不多，
> 有这样一级的cache应该会好点， 呵呵。
> > > > >
> > > > > On 10/17/07, vicalloy <zbirder在gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > 做论坛的话应当也没这么夸张。
> > > > > > 对于大访问量的web肯定都都有cache的。
> > > > > > JAVAEYE用ROR做的，性能方面还可以。
> > > > > > DJANGO默认的OR/MAP应当没这么差。
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 在 07-10-17，@@< askfor在gmail.com> 写道：
> > > > > > > 用django做论坛 负载估计很成问题，query数太多了。
> > > > > > > 如果论坛日IP一两万的如果用DZ之类的 买个虚拟空间就行了。
> > > > > > > 我想用如果是django做的话这样的访问量不做cache的话 数据库很可能被拖死。
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 我想django更适合做内容发布之类的东西。发布出来变化就比较小了
> cache能发挥比较大的作用。
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除非是和一些CMS一样，网页的内容N年不变，不然是没有必要的。
一个网站真正高浏览量的页面页就那几张，cache这点东西花不了多少内存。
对于一般的应用内存cache就够了。

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> 我更希望是直接生成临时的html ，render的时候直接file open就行了。
> 没必要都放内存里啊。

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目前有些论坛就是这样做的，比如天涯（所以有一定的延时）。
我说的是通常情况，如果网站的流量真的到了一定的程度，那就需要另外考虑。
对于一个论坛而言，刷新最快的页就第一版的那些帖子。
这些帖子放到内存中完全是可以接受的。

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> 我觉得这个不能根据网页类容变不变来看。
> 根据浏览次数和修改次数的比例来看更好，就比如论坛，如果每个人发贴都很活跃那确实没必要，但如果是发贴很活跃，但是潜水的用户量也很大，那么缓存这个做的文件IO也值得

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> 没必要都放内存里啊。
>
django支持file方式的缓存,就是你想要的.

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